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Werebat January 17th 07 04:51 AM

Single fathers just as good (bad?) as single mothers
 

Check this out: Research that proves that fathers are just as good (bad)
at raising their kids as single mothers! The researcher seems like a
bit of a feminist lap-dog, almost like he was afraid of the dual
implications of his research, as he takes every opportunity to insinuate
that mothers are "really" the best parents. But the data itself seems
to indicate no significant difference. Interesting that we haven't
heard of it sooner:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...MFE-301198.php

The researcher claims in other articles that there "may be significance"
to the fact that single mothers have on average less income and
education than single fathers. The insinuation is that mothers are
STILL superior parents because even with their disadvantages their kids
come out as well as those of single fathers with more resources. Still,
nowhere does he come out and actually compare single mothers and single
fathers with THE SAME EDUCATIONAL LEVELS and THE SAME INCOMES. He's got
the data, what's stopping him?

- Ron ^*^


[email protected] January 21st 07 04:51 AM

Single fathers just as good (bad?) as single mothers
 
This suggests that children living with single mothers would be more successful
if the mothers were better off financially.


Oh crap! As if the powers that be need more excuses to chase after big
CS orders from men!

And the very next sentence:

"Parents with higher socioeconomic status are usually better positioned to create
positive family environments," Downey said.


Gotta' love are laws. Wouldn't it then make more sense to have the
parent with the
biggest paycheck be the CP? Oh wait, that wouldn't be any fun for the
state if they
couldn't play their take-from-one-and-give-to-the-other games.


Werebat January 22nd 07 01:03 PM

Single fathers just as good (bad?) as single mothers
 


wrote:

This suggests that children living with single mothers would be more successful
if the mothers were better off financially.



Oh crap! As if the powers that be need more excuses to chase after big
CS orders from men!

And the very next sentence:


"Parents with higher socioeconomic status are usually better positioned to create
positive family environments," Downey said.



Gotta' love are laws. Wouldn't it then make more sense to have the
parent with the
biggest paycheck be the CP? Oh wait, that wouldn't be any fun for the
state if they
couldn't play their take-from-one-and-give-to-the-other games.


Another bogus argument I've seen when discussing this study is that it
"proves" that single mothers are actually BETTER than single fathers
because only the best fathers ever win custody, so you'd expect them to
do a better job parenting than the average single mother, but they
don't. This is basically admitting to discrimination against men in the
family courts and then using it to further discrimination against men in
the family courts.

The reason it is bogus is that, first, not every single father wins
custody in the family courts (I'd guess that such single fathers would
be in the MINORITY amongst all single fathers, but I don't have any
data). Single fathers may "win" custody by default because the mother
dies or abandons the kids. Even more importantly, it is a fallacy to
assert that only the "best" of fathers win custody in family court when
it seems that in the majority of cases where fathers win contested
custody against mothers, it is due to the court finding the mother unfit
to parent rather than the court finding the father to be a "better
parent" than a basically fit mother. In all of these cases, the fitness
of the father -- beyond not being considered a danger, and sometimes not
even that -- is irrelevant.

- Ron ^*^



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