Pertussis epidemic? Or Media induced malady?.
 

http://whale.to/vaccine/pertussis_epidemic.html

Being an information junkie, I have a huge collection of newspaper articles
about kids with pertussis dating from the late 70's, and... most of them are
vaccinated children. One more recent prominent one was a 10 month, fully
vaccinated daughter of a doctor at Middlemore hospital. Which reminds me of
this medical article in which in 1979, while defending his article the
author replied with a situation which exactly mimics THIS country: I did
discover that the only seriously ill infants were too young to have been
vaccinated in any case; and that these children were threatened by an
outbreak of which the onset and initial spread were entirely among immunised
children.
Nothing has changed in the world of expedient misinformation. Whooping
cough is primarily spread by vaccinated children with undiagnosed
infections, to their unvaccinated siblings, or other children in daycare or
school.
The brown coloured paragraph (By 1976, the number of cases nationwide
had dropped to 1,010 a year, because of what experts say was the widespread
use of the vaccine. But the numbers have increased tenfold since. In
California alone, there have been more than 4,000 cases reported this year,
including nine infants who?ve died ? most of them after being misdiagnosed
initially) is typical misinformation, when the truth is, that because of
"observer bias" and the assumption that all vaccinated children can never
get pertussis, pertussis was constantly diagnosed as something else, until
the truth gradually dawned on everyone, and that TRUTH then permeated the
medical literature. Ironically, the guru of pertussis, Dr James Cherry, was
the first to twig that the problem was blinkered doctors, not absence of
pertussis!
Why did that truth gradually permeate the medical literature? The whole
truth and nothing but, is never told in the medical literature about
anything......In order to convince the public that pertussis boosters from
cradle to grave is a good idea, you have to have time to concoct some
plausible sounding excuses. As well as allow enough time to pass, to get
away with absolute porkies.
But the mainstream media will never wake up to the fact that media
induced maladies exist, because they ASSUME that doctors tell the truth, and
they can't be bothered studying the medical literature (or wimp out by
saying they don't have the time).
Even if they did all the above, I wonder who would in mainstream media
would have the balls to challenge people like Dr Alison Roberts, and demand
truth and accountability?
On past experience, the answer would be "none".

Pertussis epidemic? Or Media induced malady?.
 

On 9/24/10 6:20 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccine/pertussis_epidemic.html

Being an information junkie,

That's a good description for you. Unfortunately, you failed to
understand the information.

I have a huge collection of newspaper articles
about kids with pertussis dating from the late 70's, and... most of them are
vaccinated children.

Makes sense. Most children are vaccinated and vaccination is not 100%
perfect.

One more recent prominent one was a 10 month, fully
vaccinated daughter of a doctor at Middlemore hospital. Which reminds me of
this medical article in which in 1979, while defending his article the
author replied with a situation which exactly mimics THIS country: I did
discover that the only seriously ill infants were too young to have been
vaccinated in any case; and that these children were threatened by an
outbreak of which the onset and initial spread were entirely among immunised
children.
Nothing has changed in the world of expedient misinformation. Whooping
cough is primarily spread by vaccinated children with undiagnosed
infections, to their unvaccinated siblings, or other children in daycare or
school.

Which is exactly why it is so important that all kids be vaccinated,
otherwise there would be huge outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases.

The brown coloured paragraph (By 1976, the number of cases nationwide
had dropped to 1,010 a year, because of what experts say was the widespread
use of the vaccine. But the numbers have increased tenfold since. In
California alone, there have been more than 4,000 cases reported this year,
including nine infants who?ve died ? most of them after being misdiagnosed
initially) is typical misinformation, when the truth is, that because of
"observer bias" and the assumption that all vaccinated children can never
get pertussis, pertussis was constantly diagnosed as something else, until
the truth gradually dawned on everyone, and that TRUTH then permeated the
medical literature. Ironically, the guru of pertussis, Dr James Cherry, was
the first to twig that the problem was blinkered doctors, not absence of
pertussis!

Thanks for showing that science is not perfect, but it does work. It is
self-correcting.

Why did that truth gradually permeate the medical literature? The whole
truth and nothing but, is never told in the medical literature about
anything......In order to convince the public that pertussis boosters from
cradle to grave is a good idea, you have to have time to concoct some
plausible sounding excuses. As well as allow enough time to pass, to get
away with absolute porkies.

Medicine is not trying to get away with anything except healthy kids.
ANd, for diseases that can be spread by grandparents and great
grandparents, it is important that they be vaccinated, too.

But the mainstream media will never wake up to the fact that media
induced maladies exist, because they ASSUME that doctors tell the truth, and
they can't be bothered studying the medical literature (or wimp out by
saying they don't have the time).

Gee, you point out one of the problems with the media's dealings with
con-med (conjecture-based medicine aka alternative medicine), too. They
believe people when they say distilled water cures (i.e., homeopathy).

Even if they did all the above, I wonder who would in mainstream media
would have the balls to challenge people like Dr Alison Roberts, and demand
truth and accountability?

No idea who Roberts is. But, scientists challenge other scientists.
However, mainstream media would challenge them. Look how they challenged
the care at Walter Reed Hospital and got Maj. Gen. Riley fired (he was
forced to retire).

On past experience, the answer would be "none".

Pertussis epidemic? Or Media induced malady?.
 

dr_jeff wrote in
:

On 9/24/10 6:20 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccine/pertussis_epidemic.html

Being an information junkie,

That's a good description for you. Unfortunately, you failed to
understand the information.

He's more like disinformation junkie. If there is a single piece of
unsupported "alternative medicine" crap floating on the internet, he
c/ps it to his website. Amusingly enough, quite a few of the articles
and quotes he's copied directly contradict each other - not that he
seems to notice that.

--
The trouble with the World is that the stupid are so confident
while the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell