Babies And Universal Translators
 

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Can universal translators translate baby talk?

The question is : Do babies talk ?
Certainly not like Bruce Willis. :-)

I've read that UTs read the mental currents of people, so they
should be able to read the mental currents of babies and thus
translate what they are saying.
Nothing that has to do with actual language I think.
It will be limited to instinctive things: "Like", "Not Like",
"Need".
There are certain universal ideas and concepts
common to all intelligent life.
This device instantaneously compares the frequency of brain-wave
patterns,
selects those ideas and concepts it recognizes,
and then provides the necessary grammar.
Then it translates its findings into English.
You mean it speaks?
With a voice or the approximation
of whatever the creature is on the sending end.

Companion.
We wish to talk to you.

[Feminine Voice] How can we communicate?
My thoughts ...
you are hearing them.
This is interesting.

You'd think it would work on babies, to the extent that babies think,
and probably dogs, Gumatus, whatever.
I think when Kirk said "intelligent life," the writers really intended
"sentient life."

Dogs are not sentient. It looked like Mugatos were comparable to
Earth gorillas, and therefore just might be intelligent.
Dogs /not/ sentient? But they can feel

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sentient

As for intelligent:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intelligent
Dogs are not self-aware.
They cannot recognize themselves in a mirror.

Whereas chimpanzees and elephants can.

Given a mirror, both a chimp and an elephant will use that mirror to
inspect parts of their bodies they can't see without it.

Dogs don't get that concept.

Do dolphins or cats get that concept?

Cats, no.
AFAIK, it hasn't yet been tried with dolphins.
They only tried it with elephants--successfully--last year.


So Elephants (or, should that be " a particular elephant") only became
self-aware last year!!

Maybe dogs will become self-aware this year!!

Daniel

This and other experiments suggest that elephant intelligence is
comparable to ape intelligence.

Another comparably intelligent group of species are the parrots &
cockatoos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7IZmRnAo6s

How ironic that elephants are smarter than Republicans, who often can't
recognize evil when it is staring at them in the mirror.

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