128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

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128 students suspended at Ind. school
Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first day
of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes.

Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students for
one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those suspended
represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students.

The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops and
graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited for
cell phone use.

"This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa
Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that
we're not messing around."

The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day.

Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12
weeks if they had no other in-school violations.

School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions.
"I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent will
get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca Ward
said.



Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to
dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants
affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling, controlling,
controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about what
you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than
education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as they
are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them
know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You know
what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional
environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then
let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week. Sheesh.
I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood at
the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose
skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts
weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers in
shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND
LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get
into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important class.
God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities?

--
nimue

"As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than
I have read."
Betty Bowers

English is our friend. We don't have to fight it.
Oprah

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

"nimue" wrote in message
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code
Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to
dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants
affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling,
controlling,
controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about
what
you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than
education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as
they
are in class!!!!

I hope you don't talk like that in class.

Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them
know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You
know
what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional
environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day.

Why just one day? Why not everyday? School is everyday, not just one day.

Then
let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week.
Sheesh.
I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood
at
the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose
skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts
weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers
in
shorter skirts)

Then those teachers and administrators need to follow the dress code.

and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND
LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get
into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important
class.
God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities?

I'm sorry, but you do not have my sympathies. There is a time and place for
everthing. If they want to dress however they want to dress, it's fine. If
school doesn't allow it, then do it outside of school. I prefer kids dress
properly for school; because like it or not, it does set a tone.

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

toypup wrote:
"nimue" wrote in message
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code
Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate
way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing
baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be
controlling, controlling,
controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more
about what
you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important
than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as
long as they
are in class!!!!

I hope you don't talk like that in class.

What a pointless, ridiculous thing to say. Of course I don't.

Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them
know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning!
You know
what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional
environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day.

Why just one day? Why not everyday? School is everyday, not just
one day.

Teenagers want to be able to express themselves through their clothing. I
have no problem with that. I don't want to squash their individuality. I
don't want to control every aspect of their lives. I just want them IN
CLASS. Let them have their high school fun; the real world will come along
soon enough.

Then
let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week.
Sheesh.
I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I
stood at
the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in
whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that
these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had
administrators and teachers in
shorter skirts)

Then those teachers and administrators need to follow the dress code.

and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS AND
LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to
get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an
important class.
God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities?

I'm sorry, but you do not have my sympathies. There is a time and
place for everthing. If they want to dress however they want to
dress, it's fine. If school doesn't allow it, then do it outside of
school. I prefer kids dress properly for school; because like it or
not, it does set a tone.

--
nimue

"As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books
than I have read." Betty Bowers

English is our friend. We don't have to fight it.
Oprah

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

I found it to be distracting to be in classes with kids wearing CoEd Naked
shirts (until the school figured them out lol) This was also the "start" of
the baggy jeans to your ankles pants.. kids yanking them up all the time. I
dont want to see anyones undies. I dont see what the big deal is of wearing
Jeans that fit and then going home and changing and expressing themselves on
their own time. Some people might be suprised at how nice it is to walk
without your pants falling off all the time.

Tori
"nimue" wrote in message
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code

128 students suspended at Ind. school
Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first
day
of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes.

Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students
for
one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those
suspended
represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students.

The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops
and
graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited
for
cell phone use.

"This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa
Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that
we're not messing around."

The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day.

Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12
weeks if they had no other in-school violations.

School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions.
"I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent
will
get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca
Ward
said.



Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to
dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants
affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling,
controlling,
controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about
what
you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than
education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as
they
are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them
know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You
know
what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional
environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then
let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week.
Sheesh.
I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood
at
the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose
skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts
weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers
in
shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS
AND
LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get
into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important
class.
God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities?

--
nimue

"As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books
than
I have read."
Betty Bowers

English is our friend. We don't have to fight it.
Oprah

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

Tori M wrote:
I found it to be distracting to be in classes with kids wearing CoEd
Naked shirts (until the school figured them out lol) This was also
the "start" of the baggy jeans to your ankles pants.. kids yanking
them up all the time. I dont want to see anyones undies. I dont see
what the big deal is of wearing Jeans that fit and then going home
and changing and expressing themselves on their own time. Some
people might be suprised at how nice it is to walk without your pants
falling off all the time.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous to suspend kids who violate the dress
code. Hello? The kids need to go to class to learn. We should not punish
kids by taking away their opportunity and responsibility to learn. That is
utterly counter-productive. Give the kids detention if you must, just
don't take them out of class for violating a dress code. They need to know
that going to class and getting an education takes priority over nearly
everything.


Tori
"nimue" wrote in message
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code

128 students suspended at Ind. school
Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the
first day
of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong
clothes.

Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the
students for
one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those
suspended
represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students.

The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank
tops and
graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also
cited for
cell phone use.

"This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal
Theresa Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send
a message that we're not messing around."

The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day.

Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records
in 12 weeks if they had no other in-school violations.

School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass
suspensions. "I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home,
because 99 percent will
get the message our schools are for education," board president
Rebecca Ward
said.



Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate
way to dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing
baggy pants affect a child's education? Why must we always be
controlling, controlling,
controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more
about what
you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important
than education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as
long as they
are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let
them know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy
learning! You know
what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional
environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day.
Then let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the
week. Sheesh.
I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I
stood at
the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in
whose skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that
these skirts weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had
administrators and teachers in
shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN
CLASS AND
LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to
get into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an
important class.
God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities?

--
nimue

"As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more
books than
I have read."
Betty Bowers

English is our friend. We don't have to fight it.
Oprah

--
nimue

"As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books
than I have read." Betty Bowers

English is our friend. We don't have to fight it.
Oprah

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

"nimue" wrote in message
...
I think it is absolutely ridiculous to suspend kids who violate the dress
code. Hello? The kids need to go to class to learn. We should not
punish
kids by taking away their opportunity and responsibility to learn. That
is
utterly counter-productive. Give the kids detention if you must, just
don't take them out of class for violating a dress code. They need to
know
that going to class and getting an education takes priority over nearly
everything.

If you let them dress however they wish just to get them to come to class,
then it is fashion that is taking priority over education. If they have to
follow a dress code in order to get an education, then they will, if
education takes priority over fashion. If the kids won't dress up to get
educated, then education is not important to them and they will find other
excuses to stay home. If it's not fashion, it will be something else.
Really, I'd rather the kids who are at school be the kids who want to be at
school. It makes for a more productive environment. The kids who won't
dress up for school can congregate at some alternative school where no one
cares about dress or anything else. You can go there and try to motivate
them.

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

"nimue" wrote in message
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code

128 students suspended at Ind. school
Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first
day
of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes.

Fed up with inappropriate outfits, the principal suspended the students
for
one day Wednesday, minutes after doors opened at the school. Those
suspended
represent more than 10 percent of the 1,200 total students.

The offending attire - including baggy pants, low-cut shirts, tank tops
and
graphic T-shirts - are banned from classrooms. Students were also cited
for
cell phone use.

Cell phones shouldn't be used during class, except for rare emergencies
(e.g., a parent is in Iraq and can't control when she or he can call the
child).

I think a dress code is very good. However, for it to be useful it has to be
enforced.

The principal did a good job. She has to pick her battles.

Jeff

"This was the worst year I've seen in a long time," said Principal Theresa
Mayerik. "It's gotten out of control, and we needed to send a message that
we're not messing around."

The Hammond school usually has 20 dress code violations a day.

Mayerik said the infraction would be removed from students' records in 12
weeks if they had no other in-school violations.

School board members said they support Mayerik and the mass suspensions.
"I'd be supportive if half the school was sent home, because 99 percent
will
get the message our schools are for education," board president Rebecca
Ward
said.



Clearly they are NOT -- they are for teaching kids the appropriate way to
dress -- as teenagers!! In high school!! How does wearing baggy pants
affect a child's education? Why must we always be controlling,
controlling,
controlling these kids? This sends the message that we care more about
what
you look like than if you learn, that appearance is more important than
education. I don't give a **** what my students are wearing as long as
they
are in class!!!! Let them have their little teenage nonsense. Let them
know they can BE THEMSELVES and still learn, still enjoy learning! You
know
what? You want to teach kids what is appropriate in a professional
environment? Pick ONE DAY of the week to be Professional Dress Day. Then
let them just be their 14-18 year old selves the rest of the week.
Sheesh.
I had a lot of problems with this in the school where I am now. I stood
at
the door in the morning and the male dean wasn't letting any girl in whose
skirt he deemed too short. I would argue, pointing out that these skirts
weren't too short (and they weren't -- we had administrators and teachers
in
shorter skirts) and what really mattered was getting these kids IN CLASS
AND
LEARNING *NOT* sending them home to change (and I don't even want to get
into the legal liabilities of that) causing them to miss an important
class.
God, the stupidity DRIVES ME CRAZY! Where are our priorities?

--
nimue

"As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books
than
I have read."
Betty Bowers

English is our friend. We don't have to fight it.
Oprah

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

In article , nimue says...

Tori M wrote:
I found it to be distracting to be in classes with kids wearing CoEd
Naked shirts (until the school figured them out lol) This was also
the "start" of the baggy jeans to your ankles pants.. kids yanking
them up all the time. I dont want to see anyones undies. I dont see
what the big deal is of wearing Jeans that fit and then going home
and changing and expressing themselves on their own time. Some
people might be suprised at how nice it is to walk without your pants
falling off all the time.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous to suspend kids who violate the dress
code. Hello? The kids need to go to class to learn. We should not punish
kids by taking away their opportunity and responsibility to learn. That is
utterly counter-productive. Give the kids detention if you must, just
don't take them out of class for violating a dress code. They need to know
that going to class and getting an education takes priority over nearly
everything.

OK - so you object to the punishment and not the rule?

I agree that suspension is a pretty unimaginative way to deal with it. So, how
about in-house detention, and in black slacks and white shirts as required wear.
IF the parents can't support that (and run out and get the clothes), then their
true value on education would be apparent. It would make the point, and the
clothes would add the embarassment factor that would make the point to the kids
in question.

Would you go along with that?

Banty


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128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

"nimue" wrote in message
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/..._st/dress_code

128 students suspended at Ind. school
Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first
day
of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes.


Why not a proper uniform, with a range of things to cover lots of tastes and
individuality, but not turning it into a fashion show.

Jen

128 students suspended at Ind. school
 

Jen wrote:
"nimue" wrote in message
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128 students suspended at Ind. school
Classrooms were a little less crowded at Morton High School on the first
day
of classes: 128 students were sent home for wearing the wrong clothes.


Why not a proper uniform, with a range of things to cover lots of tastes and
individuality, but not turning it into a fashion show.

Because with a uniform that parents have to go out and buy their kids
an entire new wardrobe just for school? (And if the 'range' is broad
enough to cover a wide enough range, it's no longer a uniform, but a
dress code.)

I applaud the principle for sticking to her guns. The parents were
sent letters over the summer informing them of the dress code. There
was no excuse for the kids showing up on the first day improperly
dressed. THe principle made it clear that the rules WILL be followed.
(Though I suspect that in future the results of incorrect dress will be
more like those in my daughter's school -- the kids will be made to
change their clothes.)

Naomi



Jen