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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:00:22 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:

JanD wrote:
YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR ACTIONS led to YOUR disbarrment.

YOU have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

YOU and YOU alone made the decision to LIE about since 1992.

YOU are a PROVEN REPEATED LIAR.

So far, Jan, you have again proven you are an abusive stalking harasser.
You have not proven that 1) I am a liar, 2) that I am the same person.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

snip

Before today, I did not give much thought to this topic. Coincidences
happen. Several years ago I worked for a big corporation, and once in a
while was getting emails intended for another guy who had the same first
and last name (in another building in the same state). So I thought it was
quite possible that there are 2 people named Mark Probert: one a
disbarred lawyer who lived in Merrick, NY in 1992 and another a Usenet
poster and a member of "ratbag team"
(http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm; by the way the list includes
many of the regular posters in this group). There seemed to be no
connection between the two. Jan's page at
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/p...stprobert.html did not
provide any evidence linking the two.

Then I looked closer. And holy sh!t, it is true!

In 1995 Mark Probert the poster also lived in Merrick, NY. He may or may
not live elsewhere now but it does not matter.

A Usenet message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/k12.e...fcb6db9d650d5d

was posted by a Mark Probert on 9/18/95. We see that the poster lives in
"Merrick, Lange Eyland, New York", Lange Eyland meaning "Long Island" as
everybody familiar with New York metro area geography will easily guess.
The poster had a 7 years old son with cerebral palsy (my condolences,
Mark. Do not take it personally. I would never post this information had
it not been for your lies).

Another message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1eed475ba87809

was posted by Mark Probert on 12/8/2000. This Mark Probert is known to
regular readers of this group. In this posting he argues that there is no
connection between autism and vaccinations. And his youngest son has
cerebral palsy. Meaning he is the same person who lived in Merrick, NY in
1995.

In this message:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...0a1849ae?hl=en

Mark Probert carelessly informs the world that in July 2000 he was 53
years old. The same age as Mark Probert the disbarred lawyer who was born
in November 1946.

So, we have the same small town and the same birth year, in addition to
first and last name. Must be the same person.

Again, my apologies for exposing you, Mark. Not all disbarred lawyers are
despicable beings. Just look at Bill Clinton (readers!!! please!!! no
comments on that in this group!!!) But with your denials you asked for
that.

You and others may accuse me of lots of things, like hiding behind a
fictitious name and email address while turning someone's personal
information posted in a support group against him. I am not going to reply
to that. If exposing a liar requires doing nasty things so be it. It is
better than not to do it and let him lie, again, again and again.

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mike wrote:

Hi Mikey, I see you have now stooped to net stalking.

No more Mr. Niceguy.

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:00:22 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:


JanD wrote:

YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR ACTIONS led to YOUR disbarrment.

YOU have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

YOU and YOU alone made the decision to LIE about since 1992.

YOU are a PROVEN REPEATED LIAR.

So far, Jan, you have again proven you are an abusive stalking harasser.
You have not proven that 1) I am a liar, 2) that I am the same person.


In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.


snip

Before today, I did not give much thought to this topic. Coincidences
happen. Several years ago I worked for a big corporation, and once in a
while was getting emails intended for another guy who had the same first
and last name (in another building in the same state). So I thought it was
quite possible that there are 2 people named Mark Probert: one a
disbarred lawyer who lived in Merrick, NY in 1992 and another a Usenet
poster and a member of "ratbag team"
(http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm; by the way the list includes
many of the regular posters in this group). There seemed to be no
connection between the two. Jan's page at
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/p...stprobert.html did not
provide any evidence linking the two.

Then I looked closer. And holy sh!t, it is true!

In 1995 Mark Probert the poster also lived in Merrick, NY. He may or may
not live elsewhere now but it does not matter.

A Usenet message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/k12.e...fcb6db9d650d5d

was posted by a Mark Probert on 9/18/95. We see that the poster lives in
"Merrick, Lange Eyland, New York", Lange Eyland meaning "Long Island" as
everybody familiar with New York metro area geography will easily guess.
The poster had a 7 years old son with cerebral palsy (my condolences,
Mark. Do not take it personally. I would never post this information had
it not been for your lies).

Another message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1eed475ba87809

was posted by Mark Probert on 12/8/2000. This Mark Probert is known to
regular readers of this group. In this posting he argues that there is no
connection between autism and vaccinations. And his youngest son has
cerebral palsy. Meaning he is the same person who lived in Merrick, NY in
1995.

In this message:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...0a1849ae?hl=en

Mark Probert carelessly informs the world that in July 2000 he was 53
years old. The same age as Mark Probert the disbarred lawyer who was born
in November 1946.

So, we have the same small town and the same birth year, in addition to
first and last name. Must be the same person.

Again, my apologies for exposing you, Mark. Not all disbarred lawyers are
despicable beings. Just look at Bill Clinton (readers!!! please!!! no
comments on that in this group!!!) But with your denials you asked for
that.

You and others may accuse me of lots of things, like hiding behind a
fictitious name and email address while turning someone's personal
information posted in a support group against him. I am not going to reply
to that. If exposing a liar requires doing nasty things so be it. It is
better than not to do it and let him lie, again, again and again.

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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
mike wrote:

Hi Mikey, I see you have now stooped to net stalking.

No more Mr. Niceguy.

Poor Mark.

You never were a nice guy.

It is not net stalking to expose your lies.

You made your OWN bed.

YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR REPEATED LIES.

YOUR DISBARRMENT.



On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:00:22 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:


JanD wrote:

YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR ACTIONS led to YOUR disbarrment.

YOU have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

YOU and YOU alone made the decision to LIE about since 1992.

YOU are a PROVEN REPEATED LIAR.

So far, Jan, you have again proven you are an abusive stalking harasser.
You have not proven that 1) I am a liar, 2) that I am the same person.


In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.


snip

Before today, I did not give much thought to this topic. Coincidences
happen. Several years ago I worked for a big corporation, and once in a
while was getting emails intended for another guy who had the same first
and last name (in another building in the same state). So I thought it
was
quite possible that there are 2 people named Mark Probert: one a
disbarred lawyer who lived in Merrick, NY in 1992 and another a Usenet
poster and a member of "ratbag team"
(http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm; by the way the list includes
many of the regular posters in this group). There seemed to be no
connection between the two. Jan's page at
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/p...stprobert.html did not
provide any evidence linking the two.

Then I looked closer. And holy sh!t, it is true!

In 1995 Mark Probert the poster also lived in Merrick, NY. He may or may
not live elsewhere now but it does not matter.

A Usenet message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/k12.e...fcb6db9d650d5d

was posted by a Mark Probert on 9/18/95. We see that the poster lives in
"Merrick, Lange Eyland, New York", Lange Eyland meaning "Long Island" as
everybody familiar with New York metro area geography will easily guess.
The poster had a 7 years old son with cerebral palsy (my condolences,
Mark. Do not take it personally. I would never post this information had
it not been for your lies).

Another message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1eed475ba87809

was posted by Mark Probert on 12/8/2000. This Mark Probert is known to
regular readers of this group. In this posting he argues that there is no
connection between autism and vaccinations. And his youngest son has
cerebral palsy. Meaning he is the same person who lived in Merrick, NY in
1995.

In this message:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...0a1849ae?hl=en

Mark Probert carelessly informs the world that in July 2000 he was 53
years old. The same age as Mark Probert the disbarred lawyer who was born
in November 1946.

So, we have the same small town and the same birth year, in addition to
first and last name. Must be the same person.

Again, my apologies for exposing you, Mark. Not all disbarred lawyers are
despicable beings. Just look at Bill Clinton (readers!!! please!!! no
comments on that in this group!!!) But with your denials you asked for
that.

You and others may accuse me of lots of things, like hiding behind a
fictitious name and email address while turning someone's personal
information posted in a support group against him. I am not going to
reply
to that. If exposing a liar requires doing nasty things so be it. It is
better than not to do it and let him lie, again, again and again.

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Correction. Due to this poster's error the name of the person
maintaing a web site at http://www.humanticsfoundation.com was posted
incorrectly. It is Ilena, not Jan.

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"mike" wrote in message
...
Correction. Due to this poster's error the name of the person
maintaing a web site at http://www.humanticsfoundation.com was posted
incorrectly. It is Ilena, not Jan.

That's correct, Mike. Thanks for correcting it. Actually no big deal, as
everyone knew it.

Jan

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mike wrote:

Not all disbarred lawyers are
despicable beings.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Yes they are. :)

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JanD wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

mike wrote:

Hi Mikey, I see you have now stooped to net stalking.

No more Mr. Niceguy.


Poor Mark.

You never were a nice guy.

You mean when I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you posted the
anti-semetic slur "Jew Boy" I was not being Mr. Nice Guy?

Of course I was. I was even chastised by several people for being too
nice to you.

What changed my mind regarding you was that even though you were clearly
shown that it is a bigoted slur, you still defended your actions instead
of simply apologizing by saying that you were sorry and you did not
realize it was offensive.

It is not net stalking to expose your lies.

Yes, it is net stalking.

You made your OWN bed.

YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR REPEATED LIES.

YOUR DISBARRMENT.

Again, the sole purpose of your post is to stalk, harass and abuse me.

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:00:22 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:



JanD wrote:


YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR ACTIONS led to YOUR disbarrment.

YOU have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

YOU and YOU alone made the decision to LIE about since 1992.

YOU are a PROVEN REPEATED LIAR.

So far, Jan, you have again proven you are an abusive stalking harasser.
You have not proven that 1) I am a liar, 2) that I am the same person.



In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.


snip

Before today, I did not give much thought to this topic. Coincidences
happen. Several years ago I worked for a big corporation, and once in a
while was getting emails intended for another guy who had the same first
and last name (in another building in the same state). So I thought it
was
quite possible that there are 2 people named Mark Probert: one a
disbarred lawyer who lived in Merrick, NY in 1992 and another a Usenet
poster and a member of "ratbag team"
(http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm; by the way the list includes
many of the regular posters in this group). There seemed to be no
connection between the two. Jan's page at
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/p...stprobert.html did not
provide any evidence linking the two.

Then I looked closer. And holy sh!t, it is true!

In 1995 Mark Probert the poster also lived in Merrick, NY. He may or may
not live elsewhere now but it does not matter.

A Usenet message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/k12.e...fcb6db9d650d5d

was posted by a Mark Probert on 9/18/95. We see that the poster lives in
"Merrick, Lange Eyland, New York", Lange Eyland meaning "Long Island" as
everybody familiar with New York metro area geography will easily guess.
The poster had a 7 years old son with cerebral palsy (my condolences,
Mark. Do not take it personally. I would never post this information had
it not been for your lies).

Another message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1eed475ba87809

was posted by Mark Probert on 12/8/2000. This Mark Probert is known to
regular readers of this group. In this posting he argues that there is no
connection between autism and vaccinations. And his youngest son has
cerebral palsy. Meaning he is the same person who lived in Merrick, NY in
1995.

In this message:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...0a1849ae?hl=en

Mark Probert carelessly informs the world that in July 2000 he was 53
years old. The same age as Mark Probert the disbarred lawyer who was born
in November 1946.

So, we have the same small town and the same birth year, in addition to
first and last name. Must be the same person.

Again, my apologies for exposing you, Mark. Not all disbarred lawyers are
despicable beings. Just look at Bill Clinton (readers!!! please!!! no
comments on that in this group!!!) But with your denials you asked for
that.

You and others may accuse me of lots of things, like hiding behind a
fictitious name and email address while turning someone's personal
information posted in a support group against him. I am not going to
reply
to that. If exposing a liar requires doing nasty things so be it. It is
better than not to do it and let him lie, again, again and again.

More on Mark Probert
 

mike wrote:
Correction. Due to this poster's error the name of the person
maintaing a web site at http://www.humanticsfoundation.com was posted
incorrectly. It is Ilena, not Jan.

You had a lot more to correct than that.

When you first infested these newsgroups, I assumed that you were merely
an ill-informed person who I could e reasonably discuss issues with.
When I showed you how incorrect you were, you resorted to net stalking,
supporting a woman who has stalked my family (and is proud of it), etc.

Now, I want to apologize to you for thinking that you were a reasonable
person.

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JanD wrote:
"mike" wrote in message
...

Correction. Due to this poster's error the name of the person
maintaing a web site at http://www.humanticsfoundation.com was posted
incorrectly. It is Ilena, not Jan.


That's correct, Mike. Thanks for correcting it. Actually no big deal, as
everyone knew it.

Yes, Janny, everyone knows she is your handler and you follow her lead
so close that you suffer from rhinorectoitis.

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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
JanD wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

mike wrote:

Hi Mikey, I see you have now stooped to net stalking.

No more Mr. Niceguy.


Poor Mark.

You never were a nice guy.

You mean when I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you posted the
anti-semetic slur "Jew Boy" I was not being Mr. Nice Guy?

Of course I was. I was even chastised by several people for being too nice
to you.

What changed my mind regarding you was

The fact that you e-mailed me and I saw right through your plan,and I didn't
bite.
Too bad, Mark. I'm not a Susan.

[snip]

It is not net stalking to expose your lies.


You made your OWN bed.

YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR REPEATED LIES.

YOUR DISBARRMENT.

Again, the sole purpose of your post is to stalk, harass and abuse me.

Poor Mark, STILL pointing the finger.



On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:00:22 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:



JanD wrote:


YOU and YOU alone are responsible for YOUR behavior.

YOUR ACTIONS led to YOUR disbarrment.

YOU have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

YOU and YOU alone made the decision to LIE about since 1992.

YOU are a PROVEN REPEATED LIAR.

So far, Jan, you have again proven you are an abusive stalking
harasser. You have not proven that 1) I am a liar, 2) that I am the
same person.



In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.


snip

Before today, I did not give much thought to this topic. Coincidences
happen. Several years ago I worked for a big corporation, and once in a
while was getting emails intended for another guy who had the same first
and last name (in another building in the same state). So I thought it
was
quite possible that there are 2 people named Mark Probert: one a
disbarred lawyer who lived in Merrick, NY in 1992 and another a Usenet
poster and a member of "ratbag team"
(http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm; by the way the list includes
many of the regular posters in this group). There seemed to be no
connection between the two. Jan's page at
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/p...stprobert.html did not
provide any evidence linking the two.

Then I looked closer. And holy sh!t, it is true!

In 1995 Mark Probert the poster also lived in Merrick, NY. He may or may
not live elsewhere now but it does not matter.

A Usenet message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/k12.e...fcb6db9d650d5d

was posted by a Mark Probert on 9/18/95. We see that the poster lives in
"Merrick, Lange Eyland, New York", Lange Eyland meaning "Long Island" as
everybody familiar with New York metro area geography will easily guess.
The poster had a 7 years old son with cerebral palsy (my condolences,
Mark. Do not take it personally. I would never post this information had
it not been for your lies).

Another message archived at
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1eed475ba87809

was posted by Mark Probert on 12/8/2000. This Mark Probert is known to
regular readers of this group. In this posting he argues that there is
no
connection between autism and vaccinations. And his youngest son has
cerebral palsy. Meaning he is the same person who lived in Merrick, NY
in
1995.

In this message:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...0a1849ae?hl=en

Mark Probert carelessly informs the world that in July 2000 he was 53
years old. The same age as Mark Probert the disbarred lawyer who was
born
in November 1946.

So, we have the same small town and the same birth year, in addition to
first and last name. Must be the same person.

Again, my apologies for exposing you, Mark. Not all disbarred lawyers
are
despicable beings. Just look at Bill Clinton (readers!!! please!!! no
comments on that in this group!!!) But with your denials you asked for
that.

You and others may accuse me of lots of things, like hiding behind a
fictitious name and email address while turning someone's personal
information posted in a support group against him. I am not going to
reply
to that. If exposing a liar requires doing nasty things so be it. It is
better than not to do it and let him lie, again, again and again.