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Akuvikate November 14th 03 02:00 AM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
I know people post questions like this all the time, but...

The plan is to start Bug on solids at 6 months, which will happen in 3
and a half weeks. However I'm really beginning to wonder if it may
not make sense to start a bit sooner. Why I wonder:

1. I gave her a index card to gum and drool on while I was filing
yesterday, and she actually ate bits of it (proof was in her diaper
this morning).
2. She's been interestedly watching us eat for a while now, but I'd
say lately she's watching us avidly. Of course she reaches for lots
of things, but I swear she's more interested in trying to grab what
I'm eating than other things in my hands.
3. She's also pretty interested in drinking -- often if she's nursing
and I grab my water bottle she pulls off to watch it and watch me
drink it.
4. She's become more spit-uppy. She used to virtually never spit up,
but lately does more. I read somewhere that indicates that they're
over-stuffing themselves on milk to satisfy their bellies.

DH and I both have environmental allergies (dust, pollen) and a slight
tendency to asthma, but no family history of food allergies that I'm
aware of. Part of me is reluctant to start before 6 months, but I was
in the supermarket today looking at the baby food and rice cereal,
thinking about how much fun it will be...

Kate
and the Bug, June 8 2003

Beth Kevles November 14th 03 02:08 AM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 

Hi -

Since both parents have a history of environmental allergy and there's
asthma in the family history, you should follow the sequence for
introducing solids to the allergic child. You see, the inheritence is
for the TENDENCY to allergy, not for a specific allergy or type of
allergy. Your asthma could turn into your baby's life-threatening
allergy to eggs. Or to no allergy at all.

My web site lists a couple of links to solids introduction sequences for
the allergic child. For what it's worth, they ALL recommend waiting
until your baby is SEVEN months old to begin.

I've never heard of spittiness being due to needing solids, by the way.

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.

Phoebe & Allyson November 14th 03 02:35 AM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
Beth Kevles wrote:

they ALL recommend waiting
until your baby is SEVEN months old to begin.


Seven months, or in the seventh month?

Phoebe :)
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Phoebe & Allyson November 14th 03 02:46 AM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
Akuvikate wrote:

The plan is to start Bug on solids at 6 months, which will happen in 3
and a half weeks.



Caterpillar would have grabbed food off of our plates if not
for paranoid vigilance in the last week or so. No index
card gnawing, but she *loves* to watch people eat, and gets
mad if her view is blocked. Our plan is to let her try some
solids on December 7th (Grandpa and Ah-mah's birthday),
which is a week after she turns 6 months old (she'll be 27
weeks old).

This is contingent on her having had reliably yellow diapers
for a week beforehand. She's been having nasty slimy
dark-green diapers for months, despite (relatively recent)
dairy elimination. Some experimentation has revealed that
wheat and shellfish both trigger green diapers. Haven't
tried eggs, and I don't normally eat enough soy that having
it or not having it is intentional. So I need to have her
system in nonreactive mode before we try anything new, so we
know if it causes a reaction.

So she'll have a bite or two of banana, and if she reacts to
it, we'll hold off on solids for another couple of weeks,
then try a different one. If she doesn't react, then she
can have it for a couple of weeks, then try a second one.

Phoebe :)
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Anne Rogers November 14th 03 11:09 AM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
sounds sensible, though 2 weeks seems a long time to wait before
introducing something new if there are no problems.

It's only 2 weeks til Nathanael is 6 months, though he shows interest in
our food, it seems more as a toy than as food, he was captivated by our
carrots last night, but he didn't try to put them in his mouth. I'm half
wondering if it is really worth the fuss.


Caterpillar would have grabbed food off of our plates if not
for paranoid vigilance in the last week or so. No index
card gnawing, but she *loves* to watch people eat, and gets
mad if her view is blocked. Our plan is to let her try some
solids on December 7th (Grandpa and Ah-mah's birthday),
which is a week after she turns 6 months old (she'll be 27
weeks old).

This is contingent on her having had reliably yellow diapers
for a week beforehand. She's been having nasty slimy
dark-green diapers for months, despite (relatively recent)
dairy elimination. Some experimentation has revealed that
wheat and shellfish both trigger green diapers. Haven't
tried eggs, and I don't normally eat enough soy that having
it or not having it is intentional. So I need to have her
system in nonreactive mode before we try anything new, so we
know if it causes a reaction.

So she'll have a bite or two of banana, and if she reacts to
it, we'll hold off on solids for another couple of weeks,
then try a different one. If she doesn't react, then she
can have it for a couple of weeks, then try a second one.

Phoebe :)
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Anne Rogers



Melissa November 14th 03 04:01 PM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
"Akuvikate" wrote in message
om...
I know people post questions like this all the time, but...

The plan is to start Bug on solids at 6 months, which will happen in 3
and a half weeks. However I'm really beginning to wonder if it may
not make sense to start a bit sooner. Why I wonder:

[snip]

2. She's been interestedly watching us eat for a while now, but I'd
say lately she's watching us avidly. Of course she reaches for lots
of things, but I swear she's more interested in trying to grab what
I'm eating than other things in my hands.


DD is fascinated by watching us eat and will reach for whatever we're
eating. However, if we try to give it to her to eat, she pushes it away.
Although she is on solids now (she's seven months), she's not showing a lot
of interest in eating herself, only in watching us eat. The same goes for
drinking. If I'm drinking from a cup or sports bottle, she wants to try.
However, if she actually gets water in her mouth, she spits it out.

I read somewhere to try giving the baby a spoon or empty cup to play with.
If they're content with that, then they might be more interested in the
utensils than the food itself (like dd).

--
Melissa (in Los Angeles)
Mum to Elizabeth 4/13/03




Elizabeth Reid November 14th 03 06:33 PM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
(Beth Kevles) wrote in message ...
Hi -

Since both parents have a history of environmental allergy and there's
asthma in the family history, you should follow the sequence for
introducing solids to the allergic child. You see, the inheritence is
for the TENDENCY to allergy, not for a specific allergy or type of
allergy. Your asthma could turn into your baby's life-threatening
allergy to eggs. Or to no allergy at all.

My web site lists a couple of links to solids introduction sequences for
the allergic child. For what it's worth, they ALL recommend waiting
until your baby is SEVEN months old to begin.


The one from J.A. Hall lists foods for six to nine months, so I
don't see the bit about seven months to begin. (The other link
doesn't seem to work, BTW).

I more or less followed this one, but I wish that I'd been able
to find such a sequence which actually explained the rationale
behind some of the instructions. I know I've said this here
before, but I could never figure out why, for example, peaches
were listed as 6-9 but plum was 9-12, or why pears were 6-9 while
apples were 9-12. Citations would have been really nice. I suppose
they might be included if one buys the book.

Beth

Cheryl S. November 14th 03 08:39 PM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
Akuvikate wrote in message
om...
The plan is to start Bug on solids at 6 months, which will happen in 3
and a half weeks. However I'm really beginning to wonder if it may
not make sense to start a bit sooner. Why I wonder: snip


JMO, but I don't think three weeks one way or the other is going to make
a difference. I'd say do what makes you more comfortable. If you want
to wait, then she'll certainly be just fine without solids for another
3.5 weeks.

Part of me is reluctant to start before 6 months, but I was
in the supermarket today looking at the baby food and rice cereal,
thinking about how much fun it will be...


It will be fun for about three meals, then the novelty will wear off and
it will be just another mess to clean up. ;-)
--
Cheryl S.
Mom to Julie, 2 yr., 7 mo.
And Jaden, 2 months

Cleaning the house while your children are small is like
shoveling the sidewalk while it's still snowing.



Sharon November 14th 03 10:30 PM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
(Akuvikate) wrote in message . com...
I know people post questions like this all the time, but...

The plan is to start Bug on solids at 6 months, which will happen in 3
and a half weeks. However I'm really beginning to wonder if it may
not make sense to start a bit sooner. Why I wonder:


DH and I both have environmental allergies (dust, pollen) and a slight
tendency to asthma, but no family history of food allergies that I'm
aware of.


As others have pointed out, if the parents have allergies, the child
inherits the tendency for allergies, but not necessarily specific
allergies similar to the parent. In our case DH and I have seasonal
environmental allergies; I am also allergic to mold and dust, and have
asthma. There is no history anywhere of food allergies on either side
of the family, but our DS is allergic to dairy, eggs, and peanuts.

So...I would be very careful about introducing solids, follow the
proper sequence, etc.

If she is indeed allergic to certain foods, she may be resistant to
solids (or may not). At least that is what we found with James. He
HATED solids, even though he was physically ready, and after about 2
months of struggle with him (7-9 months of age), I gave up. I would
offer him stuff, but he would rarely bother to even put it in his
mouth. In fact, the way we found out about both the dairy and the egg
allergy was right around his first birthday, when I offered him a bit
of shredded cheese - had a horrible reaction (hives, wheezing, runny
nose, diarrhea). A few days later, offered him some scrambled egg -
same thing (this time the reaction sent him to the ER). All he
consumed was breastmilk, and finally started eating solids (albeit in
extremely small amounts)at 15 months. I am convinced (although I have
no data/research to support this - so it is just opinion) that his
food allergies made him less interested in solid food in general - as
if his body was somehow protecting itself.


Part of me is reluctant to start before 6 months, but I was
in the supermarket today looking at the baby food and rice cereal,
thinking about how much fun it will be...


Sorry, this I just do not understand! :) Feeding has been the least
fun part of parenting to me (with the exception of breastfeeding, but
there are other issues at play with that). I find it, even now, to be
a giant PITA. I will be honest - the fact that James resisted solids
for so long was fine by me; I guess I'm just lazy in that regard!


Sharon
Mom to James 6.2.00
EDD #2 5 December

Akuvikate November 15th 03 08:17 PM

Yet another "ready for solids?"
 
(Beth Kevles) wrote in message ...

My web site lists a couple of links to solids introduction sequences for
the allergic child. For what it's worth, they ALL recommend waiting
until your baby is SEVEN months old to begin.


I've seen the 7 months figure cited here but haven't found it anywhere
else (incl. the Hall website and google/pubmed searches on infant
food). I think at this point both she and us are developmentally
ready and eager for solids before 7 months, so I'd like to know what
the precise risks are allergy-wise before we decide what to do. If
you have cites or links to the research or recommendations I'd love to
see them.

Thanks much,

Kate
and the Bug, June 8 2003


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