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Jan Drew January 5th 08 01:05 AM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but
only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
by Mike Adams

It only took 38 years for the American Medical Association, old-school
doctors and conservative medical authorities to admit that vitamin
supplements are, in fact, necessary for optimum health. That's not bad: four
decades is moving pretty fast for these slow-thinkers. Year after year, they
were shutting out the hard science proving that vitamin supplements were
important for optimum human health. They attacked manufacturers of
nutritional supplements, ostracized forward-looking doctors who backed
vitamins and minerals, and stuck with their old-school line of "drugs,
surgery and chemotherapy!" Open-minded scientific curiosity was nowhere to
be found.
Astoundingly, some doctors and defenders of old-school western medicine
continue this line of dogma that belongs in the history books, not in modern
medical science. One of the most misinformed yet popular family doctors
continues to call vitamins "quackery," in fact, blatantly denying decades of
undeniable evidence supporting the health benefits of nutritional
supplements.

The question today isn't whether vitamins are helpful, it's more along the
lines of what form of vitamins work best. And here's the short answer:
synthetic vitamins should be avoided. Most cheaper-brand multivitamins are
synthethic. Vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients should always be sourced
from natural plant-based sources. In other words, your multivitamin should
be made from whole foods, not from isolated chemicals that are similar to
plant-based vitamins. Even if they share the exact same molecular structure,
there's a qualitative difference that greatly impacts your health. This is
why I've remained such a strong proponent of superfoods like spirulina and
broccoli sprouts. You'll get more vitamins and minerals from a daily dose of
chlorella and spirulina than from any drug-store multivitamin.

One thing I'm wondering about in all this is: where is the apology to
vitamin manufacturers? Western medicine was wrong about vitamins, and now
that nutrition is finally starting to take its rightful place in medicine,
somebody owes the makers of nutritional supplements a whole-hearted apology.
And what's with the FDA continuing its war on nutritional supplements
anyway? Hasn't anybody told the agency that vitamins are actually good for
you now?

URL http://www.newstarget.com/z001460.html


Citizen Jimserac January 5th 08 01:27 PM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important forhealth, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
On Jan 4, 8:05 pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but
only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
by Mike Adams

It only took 38 years for the American Medical Association, old-school
doctors and conservative medical authorities to admit that vitamin
supplements are, in fact, necessary for optimum health. That's not bad: four
decades is moving pretty fast for these slow-thinkers. Year after year, they
were shutting out the hard science proving that vitamin supplements were
important for optimum human health. They attacked manufacturers of
nutritional supplements, ostracized forward-looking doctors who backed
vitamins and minerals, and stuck with their old-school line of "drugs,
surgery and chemotherapy!" Open-minded scientific curiosity was nowhere to
be found.
Astoundingly, some doctors and defenders of old-school western medicine
continue this line of dogma that belongs in the history books, not in modern
medical science. One of the most misinformed yet popular family doctors
continues to call vitamins "quackery," in fact, blatantly denying decades of
undeniable evidence supporting the health benefits of nutritional
supplements.

The question today isn't whether vitamins are helpful, it's more along the
lines of what form of vitamins work best. And here's the short answer:
synthetic vitamins should be avoided. Most cheaper-brand multivitamins are
synthethic. Vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients should always be sourced
from natural plant-based sources. In other words, your multivitamin should
be made from whole foods, not from isolated chemicals that are similar to
plant-based vitamins. Even if they share the exact same molecular structure,
there's a qualitative difference that greatly impacts your health. This is
why I've remained such a strong proponent of superfoods like spirulina and
broccoli sprouts. You'll get more vitamins and minerals from a daily dose of
chlorella and spirulina than from any drug-store multivitamin.

One thing I'm wondering about in all this is: where is the apology to
vitamin manufacturers? Western medicine was wrong about vitamins, and now
that nutrition is finally starting to take its rightful place in medicine,
somebody owes the makers of nutritional supplements a whole-hearted apology.
And what's with the FDA continuing its war on nutritional supplements
anyway? Hasn't anybody told the agency that vitamins are actually good for
you now?

URLhttp://www.newstarget.com/z001460.html


As recently as the early 1980's, I had an MD laugh in my face for
taking vitamin c supplements and dismissing it as "expensive pee"
that would be urinated away within an hour.

Citizen Jimserac

Peter Moran[_3_] January 6th 08 08:45 PM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. net...
Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health,
but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
by Mike Adams

It only took 38 years for the American Medical Association, old-school
doctors and conservative medical authorities to admit that vitamin
supplements are, in fact, necessary for optimum health.


It is STILL not true that suppplements are needed by well-fed Americans.

The evidence is strong that a good diet is *better* for health than taking
supplements, and that if there is were a need for some Americans to take
vitamins or minerals it bears little correlation to what the vitamin pushers
have been promoting. In all the recent studies where health outcomes have
been related to the vitamin intake from either diet or supplements, the diet
has won suggesting that a good diet has additional qualities. Also
megavitamin therapy a la Pauling or Hoffer has been largely disproved.

So the vitamin promoters have been doing active harm for years by suggesting
that taking supplements can substitute for a poor diet and counteract the
ill effects of smoking.

The opinion of the medical profession was always much closer to the truth,
i.e. that a good diet and other healthy lifetyle choi\ces are far more
important for the health of the average person than taking supplements.

Please stop doing the vitamin pushers advertising.

PM
That's not bad: four decades is moving pretty fast for these slow-thinkers.
Year after year, they were shutting out the hard science proving that
vitamin supplements were important for optimum human health. They attacked
manufacturers of nutritional supplements, ostracized forward-looking
doctors who backed vitamins and minerals, and stuck with their old-school
line of "drugs, surgery and chemotherapy!" Open-minded scientific curiosity
was nowhere to be found.
Astoundingly, some doctors and defenders of old-school western medicine
continue this line of dogma that belongs in the history books, not in
modern medical science. One of the most misinformed yet popular family
doctors continues to call vitamins "quackery," in fact, blatantly denying
decades of undeniable evidence supporting the health benefits of
nutritional supplements.

The question today isn't whether vitamins are helpful, it's more along the
lines of what form of vitamins work best. And here's the short answer:
synthetic vitamins should be avoided. Most cheaper-brand multivitamins are
synthethic. Vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients should always be sourced
from natural plant-based sources. In other words, your multivitamin should
be made from whole foods, not from isolated chemicals that are similar to
plant-based vitamins. Even if they share the exact same molecular
structure, there's a qualitative difference that greatly impacts your
health. This is why I've remained such a strong proponent of superfoods
like spirulina and broccoli sprouts. You'll get more vitamins and minerals
from a daily dose of chlorella and spirulina than from any drug-store
multivitamin.

One thing I'm wondering about in all this is: where is the apology to
vitamin manufacturers? Western medicine was wrong about vitamins, and now
that nutrition is finally starting to take its rightful place in medicine,
somebody owes the makers of nutritional supplements a whole-hearted
apology. And what's with the FDA continuing its war on nutritional
supplements anyway? Hasn't anybody told the agency that vitamins are
actually good for you now?

URL http://www.newstarget.com/z001460.html





[email protected] January 6th 08 09:47 PM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important forhealth, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
On Jan 6, 3:45*pm, "Peter Moran" wrote:

The opinion of the medical profession was always much closer to the truth,
i.e. that a good diet and other healthy lifetyle choi\ces are far more
important for the health of the average person than taking supplements.

Please stop doing the vitamin pushers advertising.

PM


Petey the Moron lies again.

The position of the AMA was always, similar to the tobacco lie, "there
is no s c i e n t i f i c connection between diet and disease...but
while you are sick and dying please take this prescribed poison."

The key words are scientific and diet and disease. The AMA and the
allopathic medical monopoly continue to kill over 250,000 Americans
per year, yet none of them ever go to jail for the slaughter of the
sheeple.

And while we are at it, just what is the scientifically correct diet
for a human? I think Gerson's report on the German dietary developed
for their troops in 1940 isn't too far off the mark. More fruit and
veggies, less cooked food, and very little meat.

DrCee

Peter Moran[_3_] January 7th 08 01:13 AM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 3:45 pm, "Peter Moran" wrote:

The opinion of the medical profession was always much closer to the truth,
i.e. that a good diet and other healthy lifetyle choi\ces are far more
important for the health of the average person than taking supplements.

Please stop doing the vitamin pushers advertising.

PM


Petey the Moron lies again.

The position of the AMA was always, similar to the tobacco lie, "there
is no s c i e n t i f i c connection between diet and disease...but
while you are sick and dying please take this prescribed poison."

PM That is a ridiculous statement. Doctors have only ever attacked the
overblown claims of the vitamin pushers.

The key words are scientific and diet and disease. The AMA and the
allopathic medical monopoly continue to kill over 250,000 Americans
per year, yet none of them ever go to jail for the slaughter of the
sheeple.

PM YEs they should do better, but they were proved right when by all
these studies showed that a good diet is better for you than vitamin
supplements.

And while we are at it, just what is the scientifically correct diet
for a human? I think Gerson's report on the German dietary developed
for their troops in 1940 isn't too far off the mark. More fruit and
veggies, less cooked food, and very little meat.

PM Some of his ideas were good, but he never showed, and none of his
followers have ever showed that diet can reverse established cancer. Cancer
is if anything often a disease of the over-fed.

PM




DrCee



Peter Bowditch January 7th 08 07:44 PM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
"Jan Drew" wrote:

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but
only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
by Mike Adams


KACHING!! $1 - Mike Adams again

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Debbee January 7th 08 08:44 PM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important forhealth, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
On Jan 7, 11:44*am, Peter Bowditch wrote:

KACHING!! $1


You know Peter, I thought at first you were funny...now you are
spamming, and trolling! There's always that
notion that you are squirming too!

I'm coming to Aussieland next year---do save me some pale ale!



mainframetech[_2_] January 7th 08 10:06 PM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important forhealth, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
On Jan 4, 8:05*pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but
only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
by Mike Adams

It only took 38 years for the American Medical Association, old-school
doctors and conservative medical authorities to admit that vitamin
supplements are, in fact, necessary for optimum health. That's not bad: four
decades is moving pretty fast for these slow-thinkers. Year after year, they
were shutting out the hard science proving that vitamin supplements were
important for optimum human health. They attacked manufacturers of
nutritional supplements, ostracized forward-looking doctors who backed
vitamins and minerals, and stuck with their old-school line of "drugs,
surgery and chemotherapy!" Open-minded scientific curiosity was nowhere to
be found.
Astoundingly, some doctors and defenders of old-school western medicine
continue this line of dogma that belongs in the history books, not in modern
medical science. One of the most misinformed yet popular family doctors
continues to call vitamins "quackery," in fact, blatantly denying decades of
undeniable evidence supporting the health benefits of nutritional
supplements.

The question today isn't whether vitamins are helpful, it's more along the
lines of what form of vitamins work best. And here's the short answer:
synthetic vitamins should be avoided. Most cheaper-brand multivitamins are
synthethic. Vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients should always be sourced
from natural plant-based sources. In other words, your multivitamin should
be made from whole foods, not from isolated chemicals that are similar to
plant-based vitamins. Even if they share the exact same molecular structure,
there's a qualitative difference that greatly impacts your health. This is
why I've remained such a strong proponent of superfoods like spirulina and
broccoli sprouts. You'll get more vitamins and minerals from a daily dose of
chlorella and spirulina than from any drug-store multivitamin.

One thing I'm wondering about in all this is: where is the apology to
vitamin manufacturers? Western medicine was wrong about vitamins, and now
that nutrition is finally starting to take its rightful place in medicine,
somebody owes the makers of nutritional supplements a whole-hearted apology.
And what's with the FDA continuing its war on nutritional supplements
anyway? Hasn't anybody told the agency that vitamins are actually good for
you now?

URLhttp://www.newstarget.com/z001460.html


Debbee,
I agree with you about the FDA being awfully late with their
approval of multivitamins, but to me it all makes sense if you look at
it from the standpoint that the FDA is directed by industry. Like
requiring Folic Acid to be in many foods that it was removed from by
industry. That one took over 30 years. In the meantime, industry
saved the money by using the cheaper process that removed it, and
avoided having to pay to put it back. All these decisions of the FDA
appear to me to serve the food industry or the drug industry or their
relatives.

Chris

Peter Bowditch January 8th 08 06:15 AM

Medical community concedes that multivitamins are important for health, but only after decades of denying benefit from vitamins
 
Debbee wrote:

On Jan 7, 11:44*am, Peter Bowditch wrote:

KACHING!! $1


You know Peter, I thought at first you were funny...now you are
spamming, and trolling! There's always that
notion that you are squirming too!

I'm coming to Aussieland next year---do save me some pale ale!


I have no idea what you mean by "pale ale". Ale is not pale.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com


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