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carole December 2nd 10 01:01 PM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 

"dr_jeff" wrote in message ...
On 12/1/10 10:49 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html


The cool thing is that smallpox vaccination is no longer needed thanks to fact that vaccination wiped the
disease from the face of the planet!

Way to go vaccines!


If you care to do a little unbiased research Dr Jeff you will find that smallpox wasn't eliminated by vaccines
so much as it was on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.
Further, it seems that the vaccines were the cause for many outbreaks and flare ups of the disease.
There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history, created
for public consumption, a cover story.

--
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
Bob Officer finally admits it -"I am a tool"
http://groups.google.com.au/group/mi...ss+epidemic%22




dr_jeff December 2nd 10 01:15 PM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 
On 12/2/10 7:01 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/1/10 10:49 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html


The cool thing is that smallpox vaccination is no longer needed thanks to fact that vaccination wiped the
disease from the face of the planet!

Way to go vaccines!


If you care to do a little unbiased research Dr Jeff you will find that smallpox wasn't eliminated by vaccines
so much as it was on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.


Death rates were on the decline, not disease rates. And people were
still dying.

Further, it seems that the vaccines were the cause for many outbreaks and flare ups of the disease.


Keyword: "seems."

There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.


OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.

You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history, created
for public consumption, a cover story.


Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and
other big cities who are in iron lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh,
gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.

I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I
am glad that people are vaccinated against these dreadful diseases so
that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't
need to be vaccinated anymore.

Have a good and vaccine-preventable disease free day!

Jeff




carole December 2nd 10 04:00 PM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 

"dr_jeff" wrote in message ...
On 12/2/10 7:01 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/1/10 10:49 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html

The cool thing is that smallpox vaccination is no longer needed thanks to fact that vaccination wiped the
disease from the face of the planet!

Way to go vaccines!


If you care to do a little unbiased research Dr Jeff you will find that smallpox wasn't eliminated by
vaccines
so much as it was on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.


Death rates were on the decline, not disease rates. And people were still dying.


Doesn't make sense.


Further, it seems that the vaccines were the cause for many outbreaks and flare ups of the disease.


Keyword: "seems."


If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.


OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.


The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.
Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.


You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history,
created
for public consumption, a cover story.


Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and other big cities who are in iron
lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh, gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.


We're talking about smallpox.
Try and stick to the subject.


I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I am glad that people are vaccinated
against these dreadful diseases so that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't need
to be vaccinated anymore.


The orthopaths and homeopaths could treat these diseases so that people didn't end up with permanent
disabilities.


--
carole
www.conspiracee.com
"Its pretty hard to keep in touch with reality when you see so little of it."




dr_jeff December 3rd 10 12:59 AM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 
On 12/2/10 10:00 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/2/10 7:01 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/1/10 10:49 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html

The cool thing is that smallpox vaccination is no longer needed thanks to fact that vaccination wiped the
disease from the face of the planet!

Way to go vaccines!


If you care to do a little unbiased research Dr Jeff you will find that smallpox wasn't eliminated by
vaccines
so much as it was on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.


Death rates were on the decline, not disease rates. And people were still dying.


Doesn't make sense.


Further, it seems that the vaccines were the cause for many outbreaks and flare ups of the disease.


Keyword: "seems."


If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.


I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't
make it so.

There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.


OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.


The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.


Apparently?

Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.


No, it didn't.


You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history,
created
for public consumption, a cover story.


Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and other big cities who are in iron
lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh, gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.


We're talking about smallpox.
Try and stick to the subject.


I was making another comparison that shows vaccines are effective.



I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I am glad that people are vaccinated
against these dreadful diseases so that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't need
to be vaccinated anymore.


The orthopaths and homeopaths could treat these diseases so that people didn't end up with permanent
disabilities.


Do, they can't. Treatment with distilled water doesn't work.

Jeff


carole December 3rd 10 03:14 AM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 

"dr_jeff" wrote in message ...
On 12/2/10 10:00 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/2/10 7:01 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/1/10 10:49 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html

The cool thing is that smallpox vaccination is no longer needed thanks to fact that vaccination wiped
the
disease from the face of the planet!

Way to go vaccines!


If you care to do a little unbiased research Dr Jeff you will find that smallpox wasn't eliminated by
vaccines
so much as it was on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.

Death rates were on the decline, not disease rates. And people were still dying.


Doesn't make sense.


Further, it seems that the vaccines were the cause for many outbreaks and flare ups of the disease.

Keyword: "seems."


If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.


I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't make it so.


But they're injecting live virus into people. Why wouldn't it cause the disease its supposed to cure?


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.


The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.


Apparently?


Well yes if you read the historical research.


Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.


No, it didn't.


You seem pretty sure of it.



You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history,
created
for public consumption, a cover story.

Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and other big cities who are in iron
lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh, gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.


We're talking about smallpox.
Try and stick to the subject.


I was making another comparison that shows vaccines are effective.


You can prove it just as easy using smallpox as an example.



I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I am glad that people are vaccinated
against these dreadful diseases so that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't
need
to be vaccinated anymore.


The orthopaths and homeopaths could treat these diseases so that people didn't end up with permanent
disabilities.


Do, they can't. Treatment with distilled water doesn't work.


As you have had it pointed out many times, homeopathy is more than distilled water.


--
carole
www.conspiracee.com
"Its pretty hard to keep in touch with reality when you see so little of it."




dr_jeff December 3rd 10 03:40 AM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 
On 12/2/10 9:14 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/2/10 10:00 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/2/10 7:01 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...
On 12/1/10 10:49 AM, john wrote:
http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html

The cool thing is that smallpox vaccination is no longer needed thanks to fact that vaccination wiped
the
disease from the face of the planet!

Way to go vaccines!


If you care to do a little unbiased research Dr Jeff you will find that smallpox wasn't eliminated by
vaccines
so much as it was on the decline when the vaccines were introduced.

Death rates were on the decline, not disease rates. And people were still dying.

Doesn't make sense.


Further, it seems that the vaccines were the cause for many outbreaks and flare ups of the disease.

Keyword: "seems."

If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.


I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't make it so.


But they're injecting live virus into people. Why wouldn't it cause the disease its supposed to cure?


Because it is not the smallpox virus. It was cowpox, a different virus.


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.

The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.


Apparently?


Well yes if you read the historical research.


No, you say "apparently." That means that's the way it looked, not the
way it was.


Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.


No, it didn't.


You seem pretty sure of it.


Yes, I am.


You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history,
created
for public consumption, a cover story.

Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and other big cities who are in iron
lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh, gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.

We're talking about smallpox.
Try and stick to the subject.


I was making another comparison that shows vaccines are effective.


You can prove it just as easy using smallpox as an example.


No, I can't. At least not scientifically. In science, data are always
open to new conclusions.

I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I am glad that people are vaccinated
against these dreadful diseases so that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't
need
to be vaccinated anymore.

The orthopaths and homeopaths could treat these diseases so that people didn't end up with permanent
disabilities.


Do, they can't. Treatment with distilled water doesn't work.


As you have had it pointed out many times, homeopathy is more than distilled water.


No, it isn't. It has no basis in science, no good evidence to support it
and no mechanism that can explain it.

Jeff


carole December 3rd 10 03:43 PM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 

"dr_jeff" wrote in message ...


If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.

I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't make it so.


But they're injecting live virus into people. Why wouldn't it cause the disease its supposed to cure?


Because it is not the smallpox virus. It was cowpox, a different virus.


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.

The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.

Apparently?


Well yes if you read the historical research.


No, you say "apparently." That means that's the way it looked, not the way it was.


Well yes, that is the way it looks and that is the story the the anti-vaxers are telling.
And when I say story, this is not to mean it is fiction, but that is it the version they are selling.
Whereas the vaxer story is that they stopped it.
Story means version of accounts.



Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.

No, it didn't.


You seem pretty sure of it.


Yes, I am.


From what I read, I wouldn't be so certain - the jury is still out on that one.
But not only was vaccination responsible for certain outbreaks,
http://whale.to/a/smallpox77.htm#Epi...vaccinati on:
but in whole populations of vaccinated people smallpox would occur and kill more people than in populations
that weren't vaccinated. http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.c...l-pox-big-lie/



You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history,
created
for public consumption, a cover story.

Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and other big cities who are in iron
lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh, gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.

We're talking about smallpox.
Try and stick to the subject.

I was making another comparison that shows vaccines are effective.


You can prove it just as easy using smallpox as an example.


No, I can't. At least not scientifically. In science, data are always open to new conclusions.


That is a telling comment surely.


I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I am glad that people are
vaccinated
against these dreadful diseases so that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't
need
to be vaccinated anymore.

The orthopaths and homeopaths could treat these diseases so that people didn't end up with permanent
disabilities.

Do, they can't. Treatment with distilled water doesn't work.


As you have had it pointed out many times, homeopathy is more than distilled water.


No, it isn't. It has no basis in science, no good evidence to support it and no mechanism that can explain
it.


But its long history of cures speaks for itself.


--
carole
www.conspiracee.com
"Its pretty hard to keep in touch with reality when you see so little of it."





john[_5_] December 3rd 10 04:21 PM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 

"carole" wrote in message
ond.com...


'Dr' Jeff is a liar, also known as a Social Dominator
http://whale.to/b/authoritarian_personality_traits.html

but he represents (Psychopathic) Authority, and can say any old lie as the
Followers will believe anything Authority says, however absurd



dr_jeff December 4th 10 02:15 AM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 
On 12/3/10 9:43 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...


If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.

I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't make it so.

But they're injecting live virus into people. Why wouldn't it cause the disease its supposed to cure?


Because it is not the smallpox virus. It was cowpox, a different virus.


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.

The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.

Apparently?

Well yes if you read the historical research.


No, you say "apparently." That means that's the way it looked, not the way it was.


Well yes, that is the way it looks and that is the story the the anti-vaxers are telling.
And when I say story, this is not to mean it is fiction, but that is it the version they are selling.
Whereas the vaxer story is that they stopped it.
Story means version of accounts.



Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.

No, it didn't.

You seem pretty sure of it.


Yes, I am.


From what I read, I wouldn't be so certain - the jury is still out on that one.
But not only was vaccination responsible for certain outbreaks,
http://whale.to/a/smallpox77.htm#Epi...vaccinati on:


The whale to site is a horrible site when it comes to accurate info.

but in whole populations of vaccinated people smallpox would occur and kill more people than in populations
that weren't vaccinated. http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.c...l-pox-big-lie/



You need to do a little unbiased research though - because the official story as is a lot of history,
created
for public consumption, a cover story.

Go tell that to the people in the hospitals in NYC, Boston, Philly and other big cities who are in iron
lungs because of polio. You can't? Oh, gee, that disease was eliminated in the US by vaccines, too.

We're talking about smallpox.
Try and stick to the subject.

I was making another comparison that shows vaccines are effective.

You can prove it just as easy using smallpox as an example.


No, I can't. At least not scientifically. In science, data are always open to new conclusions.


That is a telling comment surely.


I have done my research. I have seen my share of infectious disease. I am glad that people are
vaccinated
against these dreadful diseases so that they don't get them anymore, or, in the case of smallpox, don't
need
to be vaccinated anymore.

The orthopaths and homeopaths could treat these diseases so that people didn't end up with permanent
disabilities.

Do, they can't. Treatment with distilled water doesn't work.

As you have had it pointed out many times, homeopathy is more than distilled water.


No, it isn't. It has no basis in science, no good evidence to support it and no mechanism that can explain
it.


But its long history of cures speaks for itself.


Yeap - no history at all of properly documented cures.

jeff


carole December 5th 10 02:16 AM

SMALLPOX VACCINATION
 

"dr_jeff" wrote in message ...
On 12/3/10 9:43 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ...


If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.

I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't make it so.

But they're injecting live virus into people. Why wouldn't it cause the disease its supposed to cure?

Because it is not the smallpox virus. It was cowpox, a different virus.


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote
their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.

The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.

Apparently?

Well yes if you read the historical research.

No, you say "apparently." That means that's the way it looked, not the way it was.


Well yes, that is the way it looks and that is the story the the anti-vaxers are telling.
And when I say story, this is not to mean it is fiction, but that is it the version they are selling.
Whereas the vaxer story is that they stopped it.
Story means version of accounts.



Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.

No, it didn't.

You seem pretty sure of it.

Yes, I am.


From what I read, I wouldn't be so certain - the jury is still out on that one.
But not only was vaccination responsible for certain outbreaks,
http://whale.to/a/smallpox77.htm#Epi...vaccinati on:


The whale to site is a horrible site when it comes to accurate info.


Its not inaccurate so much as alternative.
And not so much alternative as containing truth, some truth.
What you're not figuring into the equation is the fact that a lost of what passes for truth that is bandied
about, comes from big corporations or vested interests.
When the whole of a subject is looked into, in an unbiased way, you can often find that what passes for truth
is in fact nothing more than propaganda.
You need to keep an open mind, and do unbiased research.

--
carole
www.conspiracee.com
"Its pretty hard to keep in touch with reality when you see so little of it."





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