Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 8:09*pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had nothing to do with them. Look it up. When a child contracts a case of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, but the best vaccine does is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection (and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.) Since parents nowadays don't suspect a communicable disease, a child is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again, that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be declining, as well. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her pertussis vaccine. This was before I was born and people rarely sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days. Both her mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of her own)were devastated by this loss. It's true that such diseases today are not the problem they once were, but vaccine was far too late in the game to explain those declines. Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery" bugs up to that "weird flu" going around, but you don't really know. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from a published source? |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
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Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Not any more? Did you know that timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had nothing to do with those declines? Look it up. When a child contracts a case of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, yet the best vaccine can do is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection (and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.) Since parents nowadays don't really suspect a communicable disease, a child is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again, that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be declining, as well. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her pertussis vaccine. This was before I was born and people rarely sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days. Both her mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of her own)were devastated by this loss. It's true that such diseases today are not the problem they once were, but vaccine was far too late in the game to explain those declines. Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery" bugs up to that "weird flu" going around, but you don't really know. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from a published source? |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Coleah & Myrl ...
You wave a red flag screaming out, "I HATE ILENA & SO SHOULD YOU" everytime you are caught in your PR scam. That you are simultaneously repeating Vaccination Industry Propaganda (such as the aluminum cover-up & the lies about mercury being out of vaccinations since 2001) illustrates perfectly what Myrl called "double dipping." I believe that the Tort Committee made an 'unspoken deal' with Dow Corning as part of the Dow 'settlement' disaster. They wanted their image in tact ... AND the plaintiffs lawyers Myrl had made a point to expose ... wanted that stopped too. Their techniques of working with insiders has been known for years. There is an early post of Myrl's when she parked herself on the newsgroup in Summer 2001 and said I was the wrong 'image' and she and Coleah were going be the right image. Absolutely ... you two are EXACTLY the chosen support group leaders .... and that's why you work in tandem, pocket to pocket with Mark Probert and Andrew Langer etc. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Since that time ... you both are the exact image Dow wants of the breast implanted community. You are both attack dogs, then act like victims. You embarass yourselves and reflect on other women harmed by breast implants when you call yourselves "Will Ketcher" and scream about Coleah's 'vibrating vagina.' http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-lies.htm Summer 2004 was a surge ... you lied that our website was done, our phones were down, and made up this absurd tale about me profitting from a sex toy. It was all flak and distraction and attack ... simultaneously with Barrett Vs Rosenthal going to the Supreme Court. They lost there ... you lost here. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...#Vera-Teasdale http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...SRosenthal.htm For all the muddle and attacks and lies ... you know as well as anyone with a google button, that you waged war on me. Now you're tired ... as Coleah said, "let the fun begin" ... well, it isn't so much fun anymore. So when caught with the history of your attacks explained, when caught spreading Vac Lies, all you do is scream, "I HATE ILENA" when taking responsibility for your choices would serve you far better. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Coleah & Myrl ...
You wave a red flag screaming out, "I HATE ILENA & SO SHOULD YOU" everytime you are caught in your PR scam. That you are simultaneously repeating Vaccination Industry Propaganda (such as the aluminum cover-up & the lies about mercury being out of vaccinations since 2001) illustrates perfectly what Myrl called "double dipping." I believe that the Tort Committee made an 'unspoken deal' with Dow Corning as part of the Dow 'settlement' disaster. They wanted their image in tact ... AND the plaintiffs lawyers Myrl had made a point to expose ... wanted that stopped too. Their techniques of working with insiders has been known for years. There is an early post of Myrl's when she parked herself on the newsgroup in Summer 2001 and said I was the wrong 'image' and she and Coleah were going be the right image. Absolutely ... you two are EXACTLY the chosen support group leaders .... and that's why you work in tandem, pocket to pocket with Mark Probert and Andrew Langer etc. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Since that time ... you both are the exact image Dow wants of the breast implanted community. You are both attack dogs, then act like victims. You embarass yourselves and reflect on other women harmed by breast implants when you call yourselves "Will Ketcher" and scream about Coleah's 'vibrating vagina.' http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-lies.htm Summer 2004 was a surge ... you lied that our website was down, our phones were down, and made up this absurd tale about me profitting from a sex toy. It was all flak and distraction and attack ... simultaneously with Barrett Vs Rosenthal going to the Supreme Court. They lost there ... you lost here. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...#Vera-Teasdale http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...SRosenthal.htm For all the muddle and attacks and lies ... you know as well as anyone with a google button, that you waged war on me. Now you're tired ... as Coleah said, "let the fun begin" ... well, it isn't so much fun anymore. So when caught with the history of your attacks explained, when caught spreading Vac Lies, all you do is scream, "I HATE ILENA" when taking responsibility for your choices would serve you far better. From: "coleah" Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project Okay, we go. Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get Ilena's non-profit yanked. This will be a challenge as the federal government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first. What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and the IRS. If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more deeply into, please let me know. If we all take a piece and research we can move through all this more quickly. (Please, please, please !!!) And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into, please let me know and I'll add it to this list. After we've explored the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of proceeding. We did it with the FDA. This will be a bit more intensive. Let the fun began!! Coleah |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and died. On Apr 23, 9:18*am, "news" wrote: "Myrl" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! * So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did
this happen? You tell me. And if you want to implicate vaccines, please provide the scientific evidence. Coincidence is not causation. Why dont YOU prove it isnt. How many vaccines are we injecting into babies now from the time they are one day old? 22 vaccines is it? How many vaccines did you get when you was an infant? Dr Jeff, you do know that a baby doesnt have a full blood brain barrier until 6 months old, right? How many babies will suffer and die from vaccines? How many more will cry and have heart ache knowing their baby was injected with these toxins that have taken their child's life. Have you ever seen a baby suffer from life threatening seizures, Dr Jeff? Do you know any parents that have lost a child due to these seizures? You do realize that vaccines cause seizures in babies. You do realize that the number one cause for lawsuits against the vaccine courts is because of seizures and death. I know these parents. I know the stories on a personal note, Not just from reading it. Donna On Apr 23, 7:14*am, Jeff wrote: Kevysmom wrote: Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. No, we just traded those diseases for cancer, asthma, autism, diabetes, epilepsy, etc...ALL of these diseases are now epidemic in our country. Yet vaccines have nothing to do with any of the diseases you mention. If I am incorrect, please cite your scientific evidence. 1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did this happen? You tell me. And if you want to implicate vaccines, please provide the scientific evidence. Coincidence is not causation. Jeff On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY
explanation for their ignorance and anger. On Apr 23, 4:57*pm, Ilena Rose wrote: Coleah & Myrl ... You wave a red flag screaming out, "I HATE ILENA & SO SHOULD YOU" everytime you are caught in your PR scam. That you are simultaneously repeating Vaccination Industry Propaganda (such as the aluminum cover-up & the lies about mercury being out of vaccinations since 2001) illustrates perfectly what Myrl called "double dipping." I believe that the Tort Committee made an 'unspoken deal' with Dow Corning as part of the Dow *'settlement' disaster. They wanted their image in tact ... AND the plaintiffs lawyers Myrl had made a point to expose ... wanted that stopped too. Their techniques of working with insiders has been known for years. There is an early post of Myrl's when she parked herself on the newsgroup in Summer 2001 and said I was the wrong 'image' and she and Coleah were going be the right image. Absolutely ... you two are EXACTLY the chosen support group leaders ... and that's why you work in tandem, pocket to pocket with Mark Probert and Andrew Langer etc.http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Since that time ... you both are the exact image Dow wants of the breast implanted community. You are both attack dogs, then act like victims. You embarass yourselves and reflect on other women harmed by breast implants when you call yourselves "Will Ketcher" and scream about Coleah's 'vibrating vagina.' http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-lies.htm *Summer 2004 was a surge ... you lied that our website was down, our phones were down, and made up this absurd tale about me profitting from a sex toy. It was all flak and distraction and attack ... simultaneously with Barrett Vs Rosenthal going to the Supreme Court. They lost there ... you lost here. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...#Vera-Teasdale http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...SRosenthal.htm For all the muddle and attacks and lies ... you know as well as anyone with a google button, that you waged war on me. Now you're tired ... as Coleah said, "let the fun begin" ... well, it isn't so much fun anymore. So when caught with the history of your attacks explained, when caught spreading Vac Lies, all you do is scream, "I HATE ILENA" when taking responsibility for your choices would serve you far better. From: "coleah" Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project Okay, we go. *Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get Ilena's non-profit yanked. *This will be a challenge as the federal government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first. What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and the IRS. *If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more deeply into, please let me know. *If we all take a piece and research we can move through all this more quickly. *(Please, please, please !!!) And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into, please let me know and I'll add it to this list. *After we've explored the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of proceeding. *We did it with the FDA. *This will be a bit more intensive. Let the fun began!! Coleah |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
LOL ... Myrl ... you are projecting again ... it is you who dressed up calling yourself "Will Ketcher" and got busted ... Myrl Jeffcoat claimed: "More importantly - Who was it that labeled Mark as Will Ketcher for over 4 years, while projecting it all over newsgroups, and on your non- profit webpages. Yes, Will kaught you with your pants around your ankles, lying through your teeth, and the Google archives of this newsgroup proves it." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That I guessed 'wrong' who was hiding behind the Will Ketcher alias doesn't make me a liar ... it means you won for a while. You hid like a coward and got away with it far a couple of years. You fooled me for a while...Bravo! Take your bows. It is entirely possible you and Probert would orchestrate the "Will" personnae to post around the same times ... what a fun game for you two. There were a few different ISP's used too ... but the vast majority was YOU, posting from Rancho Cordova or Sacramento. All those denials ... yet it was you for the most part. Advertising Quackwatch and bashing Ilena. Supporting Barrett & Polevoy & their losing lawsuit ... and bashing Ilena. You say that it is "more important" that I guessed wrong which coward attacked me as Will Ketcher ... I say it is far "more important" and way more revealing that you copied the style of Probert & Polevoy so well. Mark Probert's history of aliases (Marla Maples etc.) ... http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stprobert.html Years of aliases & attacks Identical to Terry Polevoy's "Vera Teasdale" ... 50 posts bashing me and Dr. Clark in the middle of a high profile internet SLAPP suit which he lost. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm My pants are not around my ankles ... though interesting you want that fantasy ... And "Will" didn't catch me ... he got caught. Will doesn't exist, Myrl, except as a fake name you hid behind. Have you lost all sense of reality ? ? ? ? You seem to have such pride that you and Mark Probert got away with fooling me ... forcing me to defend myself against both your attacks from your real names ...and attacks from your fake names. So Myrl Jeffcoat ... TAKE YOUR BOWS. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 2:09*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY explanation for their ignorance and anger. WOW - I post that Kevysmom should possibly look to other causes for autism other than her focus on vaccines as the cause. Ilena immediately jumps me, begins name calling, and Kevysmom speaks about anger, and labels me a paid pharma shill. . .Beautiful! With logic like that, I must assume then that you are being paid to head-hunt for the attorneys pushing the vaccine/autism agenda! It can be the ONLY explanation for your ignorance and anger. The sad thing is - where is the sound science in all that, and more importantly, the search for possible treatments, and other possible causes for children chich continue to be increasingly affected, even after thimerosol has been removed from childhood vaccines other than any flu jabs they may get??? Are you capable of presenting any sound science, or must you always resort to name-calling, labeling, and hysteria to present your stance??? If so, there is no credibility in that! |
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