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Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...i_b_97969.html Posted April 22, 2008 | 11:29 AM (EST) Breaking Home News Note from Ilena Rosenthal: First McCain ... now Obama ... thank you to the brave vaccination awareness advocates who have refused to be silenced ... www.ilenarose.blogspot.com Barring some big Clinton blowout in Pennsylvania today, the next President of the United States will unequivocally support research into the growing evidence of some link between vaccines and autism. Republican John McCain has already expressed his belief that vaccines and the mercury containing preservative thimerosal could be implicated in what he has rightly termed an "autism epidemic." Yesterday, at a rally in Pennsylvania, Barack Obama had this rather surprising thing to say: "We've seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it's connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it." So there you have it, our next President will share the views of such radical fringe crazies as, well, me, Democrat Robert Kennedy, Jr., Republican Joe Scarborough, former NIH and Red Cross chief Bernadine Healy, and several researchers at Harvard, Johns Hopkins, the Universities of California and Washington and elsewhere. All of us agree: Current evidence suggests that vaccines could be a contributing factor in some cases of autism, and more research is immediately required. And yes, now the comments to this piece will come flying in, repeating the tired mantra that "this case is closed," that vaccines and thimerosal have been "completely vindicated," and that people like me are just trying to scare the public and drive them away from vaccines, leaving their children vulnerable and sick. Of course, none of the above is true. So stay tuned. To begin with, government researchers are currently looking into a number of factors that may trigger autism, including vaccines, their ingredients and the crowded vaccine schedule itself. Secondly, on April 11th, I attended a top-level meeting in Washington where vaccine safety officials discussed all of the above issues, and more. Included on the Federal Draft Research Agenda for vaccine safety are now questions such as: Can vaccines cause neurodevelopmental disorders, such as autism? Can vaccines in children with mitochondrial dysfunction cause significant "neurological deterioration?" Can the combination live-virus measles, mumps and rubella vaccine cause seizures and long term damage in children? Can vaccines cause autoimmune disease? Can thimerosal cause tics or Tourette syndrome? Can attenuated viruses in vaccines cause asthma in children? So, no matter who is President next year, top government researchers will be examining the role of vaccines in autism and other childhood illnesses. Thus, the declarations of both McCain and, now, Obama, make good scientific sense. But there is more. Dozens of autism cases (and perhaps more) currently filed in so-called Vaccine Court will almost certainly be compensated this year. Why? Because a little girl named Hannah Poling with a supposedly rare mitochondrial condition was recently compensated for her own vaccine injuries, including autism and epilepsy. But I have personally identified at least a dozen (and there are reports of many more) children with cases in the court who meet the exact same medical criteria as Hannah, and whose cases will almost surely be compensated as well -- each time with the attendant media fanfare. My prediction is that, by Election Day, few Americans will still believe there is absolutely no evidence to link vaccines to at least some cases of regressive autism. So the remarks by McCain and Obama not only reflect good science, they reflect good politics as well. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to
be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 7:38*pm, PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. While I agree with the uselessness and unscientific basis for vaccines and the practice of ritual immunization, provide us with another causative agent or agents that have the capacity to do the harm to a developing infant that mercury, aluminum, and the other toxoids in vaccines have been shown to be able to do. I suggest that the injected ethylmercury from thimerosal has the capacity to do much more harm than the methylmercury from ingested fish, particularly since the level of mercury intoxication is nearly 1000 times greater in concentration. I further suggest that aluminum can and does do similar harm. The synergism of aluminum and mercury is again at least 100 times more toxic that either alone. The toxoids in the DPT shot are the same toxoids used to study encephalopathy in lab animals. The high pitched screaming of the kids is due to the huge migrane headache caused by the brain swelling from the toxoids. The MMR toxoids have been shown to be involved in the terrible gut problems of the autistic. Would a 2x4 upside your head convince you that being hit with a piece of wood swung with force hurts or would you need some more convincing? DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
PeterB wrote:
Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 5:09*pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 1:16*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Obama Climbs On The Vaccinehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/obama-climbs-on-the-vacci_b... Posted April 22, 2008 | 11:29 AM (EST) Breaking Home News Note from Ilena Rosenthal: First McCain ... now Obama ... thank you to the brave vaccination awareness advocates who have refused to be silenced ...www.ilenarose.blogspot.com Barring some big Clinton blowout in Pennsylvania today, the next President of the United States will unequivocally support research into the growing evidence of some link between vaccines and autism. Republican John McCain has already expressed his belief that vaccines and the mercury containing preservative thimerosal could be implicated in what he has rightly termed an "autism epidemic." Yesterday, at a rally in Pennsylvania, Barack Obama had this rather surprising thing to say: * * "We've seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it's connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it." So there you have it, our next President will share the views of such radical fringe crazies as, well, me, Democrat Robert Kennedy, Jr., Republican Joe Scarborough, former NIH and Red Cross chief Bernadine Healy, and several researchers at Harvard, Johns Hopkins, the Universities of California and Washington and elsewhere. All of us agree: Current evidence suggests that vaccines could be a contributing factor in some cases of autism, and more research is immediately required. And yes, now the comments to this piece will come flying in, repeating the tired mantra that "this case is closed," that vaccines and thimerosal have been "completely vindicated," and that people like me are just trying to scare the public and drive them away from vaccines, leaving their children vulnerable and sick. Of course, none of the above is true. So stay tuned. To begin with, government researchers are currently looking into a number of factors that may trigger autism, including vaccines, their ingredients and the crowded vaccine schedule itself. Secondly, on April 11th, I attended a top-level meeting in Washington where vaccine safety officials discussed all of the above issues, and more. Included on the Federal Draft Research Agenda for vaccine safety are now questions such as: * * Can vaccines cause neurodevelopmental disorders, such as autism? * * Can vaccines in children with mitochondrial dysfunction cause significant "neurological deterioration?" * * Can the combination live-virus measles, mumps and rubella vaccine cause seizures and long term damage in children? * * Can vaccines cause autoimmune disease? * * Can thimerosal cause tics or Tourette syndrome? * * Can attenuated viruses in vaccines cause asthma in children? So, no matter who is President next year, top government researchers will be examining the role of vaccines in autism and other childhood illnesses. Thus, the declarations of both McCain and, now, Obama, make good scientific sense. But there is more. Dozens of autism cases (and perhaps more) currently filed in so-called Vaccine Court will almost certainly be compensated this year. Why? Because a little girl named Hannah Poling with a supposedly rare mitochondrial condition was recently compensated for her own vaccine injuries, including autism and epilepsy. But I have personally identified at least a dozen (and there are reports of many more) children with cases in the court who meet the exact same medical criteria as Hannah, and whose cases will almost surely be compensated as well -- each time with the attendant media fanfare. My prediction is that, by Election Day, few Americans will still believe there is absolutely no evidence to link vaccines to at least some cases of regressive autism. So the remarks by McCain and Obama not only reflect good science, they reflect good politics as well. Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: www.ilenarose.blogspot.com www.ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ On the pages cited above, serial scammer Ilena Rosenthal says you can make a tax-deductible donation to her fraudulent charity "Humantics". If you like, you can tell PayPal what you think of their abetting Rosenthal's criminal activity by sending an email to The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
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PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. Accused is not the same as implicated. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. So you keep claiming. Since you're immune to evidence, so you'll go on claiming. In your spare time, please explain whatever happened to measles in the US. Without resorting to self-invented concepts like "subclinical measles," I mean. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home
from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. No, we just traded those diseases for cancer, asthma, autism, diabetes, epilepsy, etc...ALL of these diseases are now epidemic in our country. 1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did this happen? On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 9:15*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
No, we just traded those diseases for cancer, asthma, autism, diabetes, epilepsy, etc...ALL of these diseases are now epidemic in our country. 1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did this happen? Have you considered, fast food restauraunts, additives in food, chemicals in the environment, the drug usage of the parents, etc.? I can understand you may wish the vaccine industry is to blame, because you can more readily target their deep pockets for litigation dollars. But the fact remains that autism continues to increase at alarming rates, inspite of the fact that thimerosol has been removed from childhood vaccines since 2001, with the exception of the flu vaccine. Most children don't get the flu shot. Also keep this in mind. About a week ago, settlement for all those Ford Explorer roll-overs came to an end. Guess the outcome - $25 MILLION dollars went to the attorneys. But, the Explorer owners get only a $500. coupon to use when buying a new Ford car - with the caveat that they redeem the coupon within 30 days! Folks need to rethink the logic of spending years in litigation that only makes attorneys rich! |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Kevysmom wrote:
Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. No, we just traded those diseases for cancer, asthma, autism, diabetes, epilepsy, etc...ALL of these diseases are now epidemic in our country. Yet vaccines have nothing to do with any of the diseases you mention. If I am incorrect, please cite your scientific evidence. 1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did this happen? You tell me. And if you want to implicate vaccines, please provide the scientific evidence. Coincidence is not causation. Jeff On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
"Myrl" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you? |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
"David Wright" wrote in message . .. In article , PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. Accused is not the same as implicated. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. So you keep claiming. Since you're immune to evidence, so you'll go on claiming. In your spare time, please explain whatever happened to measles in the US. Without resorting to self-invented concepts like "subclinical measles," I mean. David, how bout YOU take as many vacs as you please and leave the other people alone? Don't start with that BS about it only works if everyone takes it. Such a plan worked out well for Jim Jones now didn't it? |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Myrl Jeffcoat joins the Snake-oil Vigilantes in their "it's anything
but the vaccinations" mantra. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm Vaccination PR Team ... Myrl Jeffcoat repeats their lies She learned well from the same PR money & brains who have blamed "anything but the breast implants' for the enormous harm caused by them. Merck Myrl claimed: "Have you considered, fast food restauraunts, additives in food, chemicals in the environment, the drug usage of the parents, etc.?" She then repeated the worn lie that the Snake-oil Vigilantes have tried to sell to the public for years ... what she claims is a 'fact' is a blatant lie. www.BreastImplantAWareness.org/myrl.html LIES: But the fact remains that autism continues to increase at alarming rates, inspite of the fact that thimerosol has been removed from childhood vaccines since 2001 FACTS: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...s_b_89775.html DAVID: They stopped making mercury containing vaccines right around the end of 2001 Now, this stuff goes and gets shipped into warehouses. Then it gets into the pipeline, that's when the expiration date is placed on it, the day it leaves the warehouse. They stocked up on mercury containing vaccines as they were transitioning into the mercury free formula. For those years, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and I'm quite certain into 2004, a lot of this stuff was still sitting on shelves. In the meantime, we started giving the flu shot to pregnant women and infant children, which still contains the full amount of mercury. We never hit zero, and now we're back up. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 9:18*am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Myrl Jeffcoat joins the Snake-oil Vigilantes in their "it's anything but the vaccinations" mantra. Issues....not people/personality conflicts. http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Sorry Coleah ... I see you want attention.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...nley-ayers.htm As far as 'issues' ... it is a BIG ISSUE that Myrl Jeffcoat, you and the Snake-oil Team continue to lie about the dangers of vaccinations .... Myrl's obscene lie falsely claiming that mercury has been out of childhood vaccinations IS an issue. Her using the identical script that the industry used against breast implant victims ~ blaming everything but the breast implants .. is also a BIG ISSUE Myrl Jeffcoat joins the Snake-oil Vigilantes in their "it's anything but the vaccinations" mantra. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm Vaccination PR Team ... Myrl Jeffcoat repeats their lies She learned well from the same PR money & brains who have blamed "anything but the breast implants' for the enormous harm caused by them. Merck Myrl claimed: "Have you considered, fast food restauraunts, additives in food, chemicals in the environment, the drug usage of the parents, etc.?" She then repeated the worn lie that the Snake-oil Vigilantes have tried to sell to the public for years ... what she claims is a 'fact' is a blatant lie. www.BreastImplantAWareness.org/myrl.html LIES: But the fact remains that autism continues to increase at alarming rates, inspite of the fact that thimerosol has been removed from childhood vaccines since 2001 FACTS: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...s_b_89775.html DAVID: They stopped making mercury containing vaccines right around the end of 2001 Now, this stuff goes and gets shipped into warehouses. Then it gets into the pipeline, that's when the expiration date is placed on it, the day it leaves the warehouse. They stocked up on mercury containing vaccines as they were transitioning into the mercury free formula. For those years, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and I'm quite certain into 2004, a lot of this stuff was still sitting on shelves. In the meantime, we started giving the flu shot to pregnant women and infant children, which still contains the full amount of mercury. We never hit zero, and now we're back up. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
For the Truth and Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal in her self-
promotion campaign as an Internet Rodeo Clown and the Internet's Village Fool, please visit: http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com Read it and weep! |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
LOL ... Myrl ... you are projecting again ... it is you who dressed up
calling yourself "Will Ketcher" and got busted ... it is YOU, who in July, 2001 ... marched onto the newsgroup and lied to the world that I was a cocaine addict. YOU are the clown ... promoting Vera Teasdale aka Terry Polevoy and Neo Con Warmonger, Andrew M Langer. Readand weep is right. You are a filthy liar and you got yourself busted with YOUR perfidy ... mercury was not out of vaccinations in 2001 like you lie repeatedly. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html Myrl Jeffcoat Lies About Vaccinations & Ilena Rosenthal http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...erVsIlena.html |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 12:54*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Sorry Coleah ... I see you want attention. http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com Mention my name, and I'll be there........... |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Sorry Coleah ... I see you want attention.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...nley-ayers.htm http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Coleah & Neo Con Andrew Langer push the corporate / military war agenda on Usenet together ... As far as 'issues' ... it is a BIG ISSUE that Myrl Jeffcoat, you and the Snake-oil Team continue to lie about the dangers of vaccinations .... Myrl's obscene lie falsely claiming that mercury has been out of childhood vaccinations IS an issue. Her using the identical script that the industry used against breast implant victims ~ blaming everything but the breast implants .. is also a BIG ISSUE Myrl Jeffcoat joins the Snake-oil Vigilantes in their "it's anything but the vaccinations" mantra. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm Vaccination PR Team ... Myrl Jeffcoat repeats their lies She learned well from the same PR money & brains who have blamed "anything but the breast implants' for the enormous harm caused by them. Merck Myrl claimed: "Have you considered, fast food restauraunts, additives in food, chemicals in the environment, the drug usage of the parents, etc.?" She then repeated the worn lie that the Snake-oil Vigilantes have tried to sell to the public for years ... what she claims is a 'fact' is a blatant lie. www.BreastImplantAWareness.org/myrl.html LIES: But the fact remains that autism continues to increase at alarming rates, inspite of the fact that thimerosol has been removed from childhood vaccines since 2001 FACTS: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...s_b_89775.html DAVID: They stopped making mercury containing vaccines right around the end of 2001 Now, this stuff goes and gets shipped into warehouses. Then it gets into the pipeline, that's when the expiration date is placed on it, the day it leaves the warehouse. They stocked up on mercury containing vaccines as they were transitioning into the mercury free formula. For those years, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and I'm quite certain into 2004, a lot of this stuff was still sitting on shelves. In the meantime, we started giving the flu shot to pregnant women and infant children, which still contains the full amount of mercury. We never hit zero, and now we're back up. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 12:14*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
LOL ... Myrl ... you are projecting again ... it is you who dressed up calling yourself "Will Ketcher" and got busted ... More importantly - Who was it that labeled Mark as Will Ketcher for over 4 years, while projecting it all over newsgroups, and on your non- profit webpages. Yes, Will kaught you with your pants around your ankles, lying through your teeth, and the Google archives of this newsgroup proves it. http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
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On Apr 22, 8:09*pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had nothing to do with them. Look it up. When a child contracts a case of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, but the best vaccine does is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection (and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.) Since parents nowadays don't suspect a communicable disease, a child is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again, that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be declining, as well. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her pertussis vaccine. This was before I was born and people rarely sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days. Both her mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of her own)were devastated by this loss. It's true that such diseases today are not the problem they once were, but vaccine was far too late in the game to explain those declines. Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery" bugs up to that "weird flu" going around, but you don't really know. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from a published source? |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
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Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote:
PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Not any more? Did you know that timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had nothing to do with those declines? Look it up. When a child contracts a case of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, yet the best vaccine can do is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection (and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.) Since parents nowadays don't really suspect a communicable disease, a child is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again, that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be declining, as well. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her pertussis vaccine. This was before I was born and people rarely sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days. Both her mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of her own)were devastated by this loss. It's true that such diseases today are not the problem they once were, but vaccine was far too late in the game to explain those declines. Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery" bugs up to that "weird flu" going around, but you don't really know. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from a published source? |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Coleah & Myrl ...
You wave a red flag screaming out, "I HATE ILENA & SO SHOULD YOU" everytime you are caught in your PR scam. That you are simultaneously repeating Vaccination Industry Propaganda (such as the aluminum cover-up & the lies about mercury being out of vaccinations since 2001) illustrates perfectly what Myrl called "double dipping." I believe that the Tort Committee made an 'unspoken deal' with Dow Corning as part of the Dow 'settlement' disaster. They wanted their image in tact ... AND the plaintiffs lawyers Myrl had made a point to expose ... wanted that stopped too. Their techniques of working with insiders has been known for years. There is an early post of Myrl's when she parked herself on the newsgroup in Summer 2001 and said I was the wrong 'image' and she and Coleah were going be the right image. Absolutely ... you two are EXACTLY the chosen support group leaders .... and that's why you work in tandem, pocket to pocket with Mark Probert and Andrew Langer etc. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Since that time ... you both are the exact image Dow wants of the breast implanted community. You are both attack dogs, then act like victims. You embarass yourselves and reflect on other women harmed by breast implants when you call yourselves "Will Ketcher" and scream about Coleah's 'vibrating vagina.' http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-lies.htm Summer 2004 was a surge ... you lied that our website was done, our phones were down, and made up this absurd tale about me profitting from a sex toy. It was all flak and distraction and attack ... simultaneously with Barrett Vs Rosenthal going to the Supreme Court. They lost there ... you lost here. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...#Vera-Teasdale http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...SRosenthal.htm For all the muddle and attacks and lies ... you know as well as anyone with a google button, that you waged war on me. Now you're tired ... as Coleah said, "let the fun begin" ... well, it isn't so much fun anymore. So when caught with the history of your attacks explained, when caught spreading Vac Lies, all you do is scream, "I HATE ILENA" when taking responsibility for your choices would serve you far better. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Coleah & Myrl ...
You wave a red flag screaming out, "I HATE ILENA & SO SHOULD YOU" everytime you are caught in your PR scam. That you are simultaneously repeating Vaccination Industry Propaganda (such as the aluminum cover-up & the lies about mercury being out of vaccinations since 2001) illustrates perfectly what Myrl called "double dipping." I believe that the Tort Committee made an 'unspoken deal' with Dow Corning as part of the Dow 'settlement' disaster. They wanted their image in tact ... AND the plaintiffs lawyers Myrl had made a point to expose ... wanted that stopped too. Their techniques of working with insiders has been known for years. There is an early post of Myrl's when she parked herself on the newsgroup in Summer 2001 and said I was the wrong 'image' and she and Coleah were going be the right image. Absolutely ... you two are EXACTLY the chosen support group leaders .... and that's why you work in tandem, pocket to pocket with Mark Probert and Andrew Langer etc. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Since that time ... you both are the exact image Dow wants of the breast implanted community. You are both attack dogs, then act like victims. You embarass yourselves and reflect on other women harmed by breast implants when you call yourselves "Will Ketcher" and scream about Coleah's 'vibrating vagina.' http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-lies.htm Summer 2004 was a surge ... you lied that our website was down, our phones were down, and made up this absurd tale about me profitting from a sex toy. It was all flak and distraction and attack ... simultaneously with Barrett Vs Rosenthal going to the Supreme Court. They lost there ... you lost here. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...#Vera-Teasdale http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...SRosenthal.htm For all the muddle and attacks and lies ... you know as well as anyone with a google button, that you waged war on me. Now you're tired ... as Coleah said, "let the fun begin" ... well, it isn't so much fun anymore. So when caught with the history of your attacks explained, when caught spreading Vac Lies, all you do is scream, "I HATE ILENA" when taking responsibility for your choices would serve you far better. From: "coleah" Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project Okay, we go. Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get Ilena's non-profit yanked. This will be a challenge as the federal government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first. What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and the IRS. If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more deeply into, please let me know. If we all take a piece and research we can move through all this more quickly. (Please, please, please !!!) And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into, please let me know and I'll add it to this list. After we've explored the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of proceeding. We did it with the FDA. This will be a bit more intensive. Let the fun began!! Coleah |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present.
Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and died. On Apr 23, 9:18*am, "news" wrote: "Myrl" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore.. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! * So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did
this happen? You tell me. And if you want to implicate vaccines, please provide the scientific evidence. Coincidence is not causation. Why dont YOU prove it isnt. How many vaccines are we injecting into babies now from the time they are one day old? 22 vaccines is it? How many vaccines did you get when you was an infant? Dr Jeff, you do know that a baby doesnt have a full blood brain barrier until 6 months old, right? How many babies will suffer and die from vaccines? How many more will cry and have heart ache knowing their baby was injected with these toxins that have taken their child's life. Have you ever seen a baby suffer from life threatening seizures, Dr Jeff? Do you know any parents that have lost a child due to these seizures? You do realize that vaccines cause seizures in babies. You do realize that the number one cause for lawsuits against the vaccine courts is because of seizures and death. I know these parents. I know the stories on a personal note, Not just from reading it. Donna On Apr 23, 7:14*am, Jeff wrote: Kevysmom wrote: Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. No, we just traded those diseases for cancer, asthma, autism, diabetes, epilepsy, etc...ALL of these diseases are now epidemic in our country. Yet vaccines have nothing to do with any of the diseases you mention. If I am incorrect, please cite your scientific evidence. 1 out of 6 children have some form of developmental disorder. How did this happen? You tell me. And if you want to implicate vaccines, please provide the scientific evidence. Coincidence is not causation. Jeff On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. *What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY
explanation for their ignorance and anger. On Apr 23, 4:57*pm, Ilena Rose wrote: Coleah & Myrl ... You wave a red flag screaming out, "I HATE ILENA & SO SHOULD YOU" everytime you are caught in your PR scam. That you are simultaneously repeating Vaccination Industry Propaganda (such as the aluminum cover-up & the lies about mercury being out of vaccinations since 2001) illustrates perfectly what Myrl called "double dipping." I believe that the Tort Committee made an 'unspoken deal' with Dow Corning as part of the Dow *'settlement' disaster. They wanted their image in tact ... AND the plaintiffs lawyers Myrl had made a point to expose ... wanted that stopped too. Their techniques of working with insiders has been known for years. There is an early post of Myrl's when she parked herself on the newsgroup in Summer 2001 and said I was the wrong 'image' and she and Coleah were going be the right image. Absolutely ... you two are EXACTLY the chosen support group leaders ... and that's why you work in tandem, pocket to pocket with Mark Probert and Andrew Langer etc.http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateClub.htm Since that time ... you both are the exact image Dow wants of the breast implanted community. You are both attack dogs, then act like victims. You embarass yourselves and reflect on other women harmed by breast implants when you call yourselves "Will Ketcher" and scream about Coleah's 'vibrating vagina.' http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-lies.htm *Summer 2004 was a surge ... you lied that our website was down, our phones were down, and made up this absurd tale about me profitting from a sex toy. It was all flak and distraction and attack ... simultaneously with Barrett Vs Rosenthal going to the Supreme Court. They lost there ... you lost here. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...#Vera-Teasdale http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...SRosenthal.htm For all the muddle and attacks and lies ... you know as well as anyone with a google button, that you waged war on me. Now you're tired ... as Coleah said, "let the fun begin" ... well, it isn't so much fun anymore. So when caught with the history of your attacks explained, when caught spreading Vac Lies, all you do is scream, "I HATE ILENA" when taking responsibility for your choices would serve you far better. From: "coleah" Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project Okay, we go. *Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get Ilena's non-profit yanked. *This will be a challenge as the federal government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first. What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and the IRS. *If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more deeply into, please let me know. *If we all take a piece and research we can move through all this more quickly. *(Please, please, please !!!) And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into, please let me know and I'll add it to this list. *After we've explored the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of proceeding. *We did it with the FDA. *This will be a bit more intensive. Let the fun began!! Coleah |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
LOL ... Myrl ... you are projecting again ... it is you who dressed up calling yourself "Will Ketcher" and got busted ... Myrl Jeffcoat claimed: "More importantly - Who was it that labeled Mark as Will Ketcher for over 4 years, while projecting it all over newsgroups, and on your non- profit webpages. Yes, Will kaught you with your pants around your ankles, lying through your teeth, and the Google archives of this newsgroup proves it." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That I guessed 'wrong' who was hiding behind the Will Ketcher alias doesn't make me a liar ... it means you won for a while. You hid like a coward and got away with it far a couple of years. You fooled me for a while...Bravo! Take your bows. It is entirely possible you and Probert would orchestrate the "Will" personnae to post around the same times ... what a fun game for you two. There were a few different ISP's used too ... but the vast majority was YOU, posting from Rancho Cordova or Sacramento. All those denials ... yet it was you for the most part. Advertising Quackwatch and bashing Ilena. Supporting Barrett & Polevoy & their losing lawsuit ... and bashing Ilena. You say that it is "more important" that I guessed wrong which coward attacked me as Will Ketcher ... I say it is far "more important" and way more revealing that you copied the style of Probert & Polevoy so well. Mark Probert's history of aliases (Marla Maples etc.) ... http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stprobert.html Years of aliases & attacks Identical to Terry Polevoy's "Vera Teasdale" ... 50 posts bashing me and Dr. Clark in the middle of a high profile internet SLAPP suit which he lost. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm My pants are not around my ankles ... though interesting you want that fantasy ... And "Will" didn't catch me ... he got caught. Will doesn't exist, Myrl, except as a fake name you hid behind. Have you lost all sense of reality ? ? ? ? You seem to have such pride that you and Mark Probert got away with fooling me ... forcing me to defend myself against both your attacks from your real names ...and attacks from your fake names. So Myrl Jeffcoat ... TAKE YOUR BOWS. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 2:09*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY explanation for their ignorance and anger. WOW - I post that Kevysmom should possibly look to other causes for autism other than her focus on vaccines as the cause. Ilena immediately jumps me, begins name calling, and Kevysmom speaks about anger, and labels me a paid pharma shill. . .Beautiful! With logic like that, I must assume then that you are being paid to head-hunt for the attorneys pushing the vaccine/autism agenda! It can be the ONLY explanation for your ignorance and anger. The sad thing is - where is the sound science in all that, and more importantly, the search for possible treatments, and other possible causes for children chich continue to be increasingly affected, even after thimerosol has been removed from childhood vaccines other than any flu jabs they may get??? Are you capable of presenting any sound science, or must you always resort to name-calling, labeling, and hysteria to present your stance??? If so, there is no credibility in that! |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
PeterB wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Timeline data for all of these proves conclusively that vaccine had nothing to do with them. Look it up. Really? Until the measles vaccine came out, most children got measles. Now, in the US and other countries where the vast majority of kids do, almost no kids get measles. Polio was wiped out of the western hemisphere by vaccines. Get a clue, man. When a child contracts a case of measles these days, it's almost certain that it won't be reported due to vaccine bias based on a child's vaccine status, but the best vaccine does is to limit or reduce the severity of a viral infection (and sometimes it produces symptoms not unlike the disease itself.) Bull. Already this year, cases of measles have been reported in California and the New York City Area. These cases were from people outside the country. Measles is reported. Since parents nowadays don't suspect a communicable disease, a child is rarely presented to a doctor for evaluation. He or she stays out of school for a day or two with a "flu bug." Even if the child is presented for evaluation, a doctor rarely orders blood work. Again, that is based on vaccine bias. You probably don't know that measles mortality had already declined by 95% before the vaccine was even introduced, and for that to happen, severe morbidity had to be declining, as well. Will you please provide evidence to back your claims? You seem to be totally ignorant. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. One of my cousins died at age 3 within an hour of receiving her pertussis vaccine. This was before I was born and people rarely sought legal remedy against medical providers in those days. Both her mother and my mother (who had not yet had children of her own)were devastated by this loss. It's true that such diseases today are not the problem they once were, but vaccine was far too late in the game to explain those declines. Nowadays, we chalk most of our "mystery" bugs up to that "weird flu" going around, but you don't really know. Get a clue man. The vaccines wiped out the diseases. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Care to back that up with risk-adjusted scientific evidence from a published source? I suggest you look at the evidence at www.cdc.gov. |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Kevysmom wrote:
vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and died. How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis that the Hib vaccine is dangerous? The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and refusing to get vaccines is no different. The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they prevent. Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very serious illnesses. On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote: "Myrl" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 3:55*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Coleah & Myrl ... Mention my name and I'll be there..... http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 3:57*pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Coleah & Myrl ... Mention my name and I'll be there..... http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 4:09*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Ilena, They have to be paid pharma shills. That can be the ONLY explanation for their ignorance and anger. Mention my name and I'll be there..... http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Myrl wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:14*pm, Ilena Rose wrote: LOL ... Myrl ... you are projecting again ... it is you who dressed up calling yourself "Will Ketcher" and got busted ... More importantly - Who was it that labeled Mark as Will Ketcher for over 4 years, while projecting it all over newsgroups, and on your non- profit webpages. Yes, Will kaught you with your pants around your ankles, And that's not a pretty sight, let me tell you. lying through your teeth, and the Google archives of this newsgroup proves it. http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t!
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By the same people I might add. On Apr 23, 6:32*pm, Jeff wrote: Kevysmom wrote: vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and died. How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis that the Hib vaccine is dangerous? The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and refusing to get vaccines is no different. The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they prevent. Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very serious illnesses. On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote: "Myrl" wrote in message .... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! * So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t! Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my concern. We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By the same people I might add. Really? And what people are these? On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote: Kevysmom wrote: vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and died. How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis that the Hib vaccine is dangerous? The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and refusing to get vaccines is no different. The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they prevent. Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very serious illnesses. On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote: "Myrl" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. By the same people I might add. Really? And what people are these? Well, lets see we are in Iraq for oil, so who is behind oil? Corporate America. How do they get that oil, They use our government. On Apr 23, 7:16*pm, Jeff wrote: Kevysmom wrote: Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t! Actually, that is my opinion. What the pharma companies say is not my concern. We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By the same people I might add. Really? And what people are these? On Apr 23, 6:32 pm, Jeff wrote: Kevysmom wrote: vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. Tell that to a mother who watched her child go into a seizure and died. How about you telling a mother of a child who died from Hib meningitis that the Hib vaccine is dangerous? The fact is that there is risk in everything we do. Vaccines and refusing to get vaccines is no different. The risk from vaccines is far less than the risk of the diseases they prevent. Unfortunately, your emotional argument will convince some parents not to vaccinate their kids. Sadly, those kids are more likely to get very serious illnesses. On Apr 23, 9:18 am, "news" wrote: "Myrl" wrote in message .... On Apr 22, 5:09 pm, Jeff wrote: PeterB wrote: Vaccine is certainly implicated in autism even if it's not likely to be the sole trigger. What's tragic is that vaccine is so completely unncessary and without scientific basis. Really? Ever notice all those kids coming down with polio? Staying home from school from measles? Having birth defects from rubella? Not anymore. Vaccines completely eliminated polio in the Western hemisphrere, nearly completely stopped measles (with all cases from sources outside the US), decreased invasive Hib disease, nearly eliminated rubella-related birth defects, decrease the incidence and severity of chicken pox, decreased the rates of diptheria, tetanus and purtussis. If you want to decrease the chances of your kid from getting sick or dying, then vaccines are necessary. Jeff Most intelligent folks have figured out the enormous benefit seen from vaccines, have far outweighed any small risk vaccinations present. People who would promote an anti vaccination agenda in this day and age, are either too young to remember the world with Polio, Rubella, Whooping Cough, Mumps, etc.; OR they are too old and senile to remember it! * So Myrl, how's that bridge buying thing working out for you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Obama Climbs On The Vaccine Bandwagon
On Apr 23, 4:11*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Pure Pharma Propaganda Bullsh*t! We were also told the Iraq had WMD and we are in imminent danger. *By the same people I might add. No Dear - It wasn't the "same" people who told us there were WMDs in Iraq, and presenting scientific proof that vaccines work! I know you may wish to see conspiracies everywhere! As an aside, on Monday in Phoenix, UFO(s) were sited. Pictures were taken and they hit the media. Then the next day, a guy comes forward and states that he strung a bunch of balloons together, with flares attached to them, which provided the "UFO" effect. However, there are those that now say it's the "official" explanation - and extrateresterials are out there! The people seeing that report will fall into 3 categories: (1) People who will believe the guy's story. (2) People who will believe his story is an official coverup story. (3) But, the third group of people, will say maybe it is, maybe it's not - and either continue exploring for the truth, or go on to other things in their lives. |
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