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"whatamess" wrote
Since CPs claim that it costs SO MUCH MORE money to have an
additional
child in the home...meals, electricity, insurance, mortgage,
etc...How
do they make ends meet once the child support is over, at let's
say
18? Do they all of a sudden go hungry or does the CP lose
their
house
since they can no longer afford the house payment for the
additional
child/adult, do they lose their car or insurance since they can
no
longer pay the original amount? Or maybe the electric company,
the
mortgage company, etc...now lower their bills so they can
manage???
Or do they just kick out the 18 year old as soon as the last
check
comes in? Or do they make that 18 year old get a job and pay
the
equivalent of what the non-custodial parent paid in CS, so that
they
all still have a roof over their head, electricity, etc???
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My husband's ex did nearly all the above even though she had a
decent
salary
of her own as a college instructor.
Stepson came to live with us when he turned 18 as his mom kicked
him
out--said she
couldn't afford him without CS. He finished school and college
here.
He
was
only in
10th grade at 18 because he had learning disabilities. He
thrived
here
and
went on to state university
(here). He's now 27 but has been on his own for several years. I
have
no
idea how his mother is
doing financially now. The judge did tell her at the last hearing
(years
ago) that she was going
to have to learn to live on less money. She had asked the court
to
increase
the CS for the remaining child
to the amt we were paying for the two ($1200.mo). Yep--She tried
:-)

This brings to mind some questions. A child turns 18 thus becoming
a
legal
adult. For whatever reason, "child support" is ordered to continue.
Can
the
court legally prohibit the child from residing with the father? And
if
the
child lives with the father 100% of the time, does the father still
have
to
pay money to the mother?



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Sounds reasonable to me...hehe...

OK, let's say actually that the same CP who kicks out the 18 yr. old
sates they have
to leave because they cannot afford them in their house...so 18 yr.
old goes to NCP house...
Then, NCP decides to take the CP to court to ask for child support
because the child
decides to go to school, therefore, the NCP will pay for college and
just needs the CP
to pay CS...hmmmm...DO YOU THINK THAT THE ORIGINAL CP WOULD ALL OF A
SUDDEN
SAY NO AND CLAIM THE 18YR OLD IS NOW AN ADULT? hehe...OR WOULD THEY
SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ANY INCREMENTAL COST BECAUSE
THE NCP DIDN"T HAVE TO BUY A NEW HOUSE, blah, blah...hmmm...

Can you get a CS order if the "child" is already 18, and there was not
an
order before? Doesn't the original order have to be in place before
the
"child" reaches the age of majority?

The state of Oregon changes this adult child attending school CS law
about
as often as I change my underwear. Under prior law a CS order extending
CS
beyond age 18 ended when an adult child stopped going to college. Under
current law a CS order can be reinstated if a child re-enrolls in
college
before they reach age 21.

The problem with this law is the child has to ask to legally join the CS
case in order to force the CP to pay college support too. Otherwise,
only
the NCP can be ordered to pay college support. The child has to hire an
attorney to get the CP to be ordered to pay CS just like the NCP.

Imagine that; suing BOTH parents for money so the "child" can lead a
lifestyle of laziness! Like they say, the apple falls CLOSE to the
tree..........

Truth is my daughter understood her college financing options, the FAFSA
process, the CS laws for adult children attending school, used me as her
financial and tax consultant, and helped me explain all of the issues to her
mother. That is what I would consider the apple falling close to the tree.

My comment was about the child attending school statute saying one thing but
being implemented in a different way. I filed grievance after grievance.
The CS Constituent Liaison told me he had 12-13 cases similar to mine where
fathers were complaining about money that was supposed to be going to the
student to pay for their education, ended up going to the mother to pay for
her household expenses. It was at that point I realized the language in a
divorce decree, and any modifications, is never read by CS administrators.
They were basing everything they did off of the money judgment prepared by
the Deputy DA AFTER the court approved the modification order.

Case law in my state says CS payable to a child attending school can only be
ordered against the NCP. But the student can "join" the case and get an
order for CS from both parents. The discrepancy I pushed was under state
and federal tax law when a person reaches the age of 18 they are no longer a
minor, so divorce decree language about CP's and NCP's of minor children is
no longer valid.