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Old February 29th 08, 07:54 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Ron
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Default Foster father sentenced to 30 years for shaking infant, causing her to lose sight and ability to walk


"Greegor" wrote in message
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On Feb 25, 4:53 pm, "Ron" wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message

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On Feb 23, 4:40 pm, "Ron" wrote:





"LK" wrote in message


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On Feb 22, 11:28 pm, LindaLouMom wrote:


I agree, Sometimes crazy stuff happens in fostercare. Although what
was the crazy stuff going on at home to have them takin in the first
place?
All the statistics you posted stated that children in foster care turn
out bad..well if the dam bio parents were doing the RIGHT thing (not
abusing the children, feeding them, protecting them) then these
children would not be in foster care. Therefore, the final blame rest
with the BIO-PARENTS..not anyone else. Of course fosterparents who
commit crazy acts as the one just discussed needs to be sentenced to
jail...


Just because the caseworkers pull children from their home does not
make the caseworks the bad people....they are ONLY trying to protect
them from the DANGER they face in their current home situation.
What a great example of the Self-Righteously Hypocritical mentality
that jusfifies babystealing and plagues the falsley accused easy
targets such as poor.
Here, allow me to enlighten you oh great loud opinion based on
ignorance person here. Visithttp://www.LegallyKidnapped.blogspot.com


We know that you would not agree with that position, but then again you
do
seem to have issues with facts dont you. Not to fear, there are more
than
eough examples of **** poor parenting on both sides of the issue for
everyone. The difference is, when the parents fail to do their job the
child suffers. The same could be said for foster parents, but then again
if
the parents had not failed the children would not be in care.


Ron


Is there a miniumum IQ requirement for people wanting to be Fosters?

In WHAT way are the parents responsible
for horrible child abuse at the hands OF THE SYSTEM?

The argument is really sick.

If a kid was removed for the neglect because
of a messy house, how are those parents
responsible when the kids get their heads
bashed in in foster care?

The concepts involved are well beyond your ability to comprehend gregg, as
you have proven so many times in the past. But, once again I'll try and
clarify it a bit for you. I have no hope of success, but at least I know
that going in.


Lets use you as an example. It might help you to understand. Lisa's child.
If she were to be abused while she is in care (6 years now is it?), you
would bear some responsibility for that abuse, since without your original
abuse of her she would not be IN care and therefore not in the situation.
Get it?


If there was REAL child abuse why do you think they
didn't take it into criminal court?

*Because it is not the mandate of the Child Protective System to take things
to court gregg, their mandate is to do whatever can be done to preverve the
family, help kids in need, and prevent child abuse/neglect.

The sham courts that remove kids are NOT up to
the legal standards they should be.

*Just what percentage of all criminal cases never make it to court gregg?
And why? 50% maybe? Just a guess mind you, but I'm reasonable certain it
is in that area somewhere. As for why, simple, evidence. Lack of. There
is a wide gulf between knowing a crime was committed and who did it versus
being able to prove it in a court of law. Family court is no different.
Abuse and negelct cases are particularly difficult to prosecute because of
the stigma attached to such crimes, because of the youth of the victims, and
because its one of those crimes that some people just dont recognize (you
for example).

You think such a sham court removal makes
it OK for a Foster to engage in actual CRIMINAL
child abuse?

*No more so than it is OK for a parent to participate in such. The problem
is that parents do it FAR more often than foster parents. The data proves
that, beyond any doubt. Foster parents are just more likely to be caught
than bio parents, and the stats prove that as well.

Ron