How many years now .... ... of posting that he wants "parents to make
up their own mind?"

How many years of attacking any information, opinion, or personal story
in support of non-spanking?

How many years of defending everything from the pro spanking side?

How many years of letting slide posters like Fern that supported
parents beating their children bloody publicly?

How many years of siding with people that, like Fern, advocated for
parents to have the last word on whether or not to beat children until
they bleed?

How many years of riding every bogus hobby horse of the pro spanking
noodniks like Lazerlere, and Dobson...the dog "trainer?" The one that
thinks raising children is a matter of going to war with them?

Doan, the first day I viewed this ng I spotted you for a phony. A quick
google search on your posting confirmed it. And nothing I've seen since
changes that.

You have no intention of allowing parents to make up their own mind,
or you would, like any truly objective fence sitter, treat each side of
the question equally or you'd hold your views.

You are a little child, stuck back where you were first betrayed by
your parents with those blows to your body and your mind.

It's apparently made you even lie to yourself, if you believe this ****
you've posted all these years about your neutrality on this subject.

A phony. How very childishly sad you appear.