"Kari" wrote in message
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Im in the same boat as you are, Cheryl.

I'm sorry to hear that but kind of relieved to know I'm not the only
one.

Xander sleeps maybe 3 hours at night at a stretch IF Im lucky.
And he has this awake period for 2 hours between 2am and
4am every night. He's so tired during the days that he takes
cat naps, as many as 4 or 5. And lately he's been cranky if
Im not nursing him or holding him. Not crying cranky but
protesting cranky where I can't really set him down.

This sounds just like Jaden too, other than the awake period from 2am to
4am which thankfully he doesn't currently have. He was up from 12:00 to
2:00 last night though so we may be headed for that. He doesn't take
naps of any significant length - he sleeps and nurses at the same time.
It's like going back to having a newborn again.

I wish I had some advice for you but Im going to be reading
this thread with interest because I really need some sleep too.
I dont leave the house much because of the weather for one
and becuase I just can't get the nerve. I get more tired going
out and then Im really stressed and if Xander isn't
sleeping, he hates the car seat and screams.

Our weather is bad too. Jaden often cries when I put him in his carseat
too. Last week I made it out to the mall for Julie to play on the
indoor playground, which was great for her, but when we were leaving, I
looked up from putting Jaden's bunting on him and she had run off and I
didn't know where she was for a minute. So now I'm afraid of taking
them both out! I really feel like I've got more than I can handle ATM.
It doesn't help at all that whenever things get really bad (like last
night) DH says to me that he *knew* it would be a bad idea to have
another baby. It just kills me to hear that. So I feel like I have to
hide my difficulties from him rather than being able to rely on him for
help. Very bad, I know.

Could he be teething? I know Xander is drooling all over the
place and putting things in his mouth left and right.

Actually he is teething, I keep forgetting that. I can't remember
anything these days. At his 4-month check up the doctor said she could
feel his lower right tooth, but it was still way down there and wouldn't
be coming through anytime soon.

He's also learning a lot of new
skills right now, rolling, sitting (or trying to!) and he wont
stay still at night for me anymore.

Jaden would *so* love to be able to sit up. I think that alone will be
a big improvement in his (and therefore, my) life. :-)

Maybe he does need some more substance and I might get
flamed for saying that but with Noah, as soon as we started
him on solids, he was a completely different baby.

A month ago, Jaden had gotten to where he nursed 7 times a day for no
more than 15 minutes at a time, sometimes only 5. Now it seems like
he's norsing more than 7 times, though I haven't actually kept track,
and for 30-45 minutes at a time. Honestly if that isn't an indication
that he needs more to eat I don't know what is. I was going to wait
until 6 months but now I'm thinking 5. I don't think it can hurt to try
it.

Hang in there, if you think you may have PPD it wouldn't
hurt to talk to your Dr.

I really think it is just being so tired, though it's having some of the
same effects as depression.

Plus it helps to talk to someone and that too, is why
we're all here to listen

Thanks Kari, I hope you get some helpful ideas from this thread too.
--
Cheryl S.
Mom to Julie, 2 yr., 9 mo.
And Jaden, 4 months

Cleaning the house while your children are small is like
shoveling the sidewalk while it's still snowing.