On 31 Jan 2004, Kane wrote:

Doan wrote in message ...
On 31 Jan 2004, Kane wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:03:36 -0800, Doan wrote:

On 17 Jan 2004, Kane wrote:

Discipline (a parent decided somewhat imprecisely where "spanking"
ends and "abuse" begins). Doan could have helped him discover the
"reasonable standard" measure, but somehow didn't come forward in
time....Doan? Doan? Where are you Doan?

LOL! Still showing everyone that you are still stupid?

LOL! No, just letting you show how stupid you are.

Missed the recent Canadian court finding on "reasonable" didn't you?
They can't figure it out and admit it. So they have cut the right to
spank to the barest of minimums, leaving a great many how have come
here and "made up their own minds" very much in the lurch.

They can't do, in Canada, legally what your buddies here claim is
okay.

Too lazy to
call your local DA or CPS on what is "reasonable"???

They don't know and neither do you. The question isn't, by the way,
what is "reasonable" but what is abusive. And you still haven't
provided the marker that would tell people where that boundary is, now
have you?

Using that logic, you can't talk to your child neither since you CAN'T
PROVIDED THE MARKER THAT WOULD TELL PEOPLE WHERE THAT BOUNDARY IS between
plain talking and verbal abuse! Logic and the anti-spanking zealotS,
are they mutually exclusive? ;-)

Speaking of "logic" R R R R R.......

That's got to be one of your sorriest.

There's little controversy about verbal abuse of children but there
should be....it certainly does exist,so YES, stupid little one, that
TOO deserves a marker and neither you or anyone else can tell where
that is for any given child.

So just like with spanking, you should NEVER talk to you child???
Logic and the anti-spanking zealotS, are they mutually exclusive? ;-)

So shall we expand, my brilliant Doananator, our discussion to include
verbal abuse vs verbal discussion of unwanted behavior?

Yup! :-)

Damn but you are stupid. And a fake of years standing.

Looking in the mirror again, Kane9? :-0

So Doananator. The Question now has two parts before I'll debate Embry
with you. And remember you keep bringing this on your self by bobbing
and weaving and pretending you are here for a debate.

Still doing the Kane9 Kan't dance? :-)

So Answer The Question, dogfaced boy. Where is line, precisely,
between actual discipline and abuse when using either spanking or
verbal correction, eh?

Dogfaced??? Are you talking to your mom? :-0

Did I mention your stupidity yet? Hope so. Wouldn't want you to miss
it.

You admitted to being stupid! An inherited trait? :-0

Doan..

...anism if ever I saw it.

R R R R R

Kane

9 Kan't!!! :-)

Doan