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Old May 4th 04, 08:52 AM
John Doe
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Default Have you tried an electric toothbrush?

"CBI" wrote
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Consumers reports agrees that it makes no difference.


Care to provide a quotation/citation? An issue date?


It was discussed in the December 2003 issue. This is only
available on-line for a fee.
Now that I have shown you mine would you care to do the
same?


I wont subscribe to Consumer Reports to seek proof of your claim.
Perhaps what you recall isn't what was said. Or maybe they screwed up
royally.

If you know how to use the Usenet archives, you have no need for
Consumer Reports. I don't mean everything users say is true, sometimes
even the consensus could be wrong. Sometimes you have to read between
the lines. In any case, the wealth of available information/opinions is
greater than any other single source in the world, and growing.

A quick search provides me some very enthusiastic and experienced
collaboration, and no experienced disagreement.

Here are some experienced quotes from the archives. You can find them
from Google's search page.

....Just dropped and broke my electric toothbrush, being a diabetic it`s
a must. [because it keeps her mouth cleaner which lessens risk of
infection]

....For the past 15 years I've been flossing, and brushing daily with an
electric toothbrush. Every 5 years ... the doc says, "Everything looks
good. Keep it up."

....ALL MY GRANDKIDS HAVE ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSHES. ALL MY GROWN KIDS HAVE
THEM ALSO. YES, I THINK THEY DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF CLEANING THEIR
TEETH. ALL OF THEM! ...ALL THREE OF MINE HAS ONE. AND THEY LOVE THEM
[the thread started with an all capital letter post, apparently the
others playfully followed suit]

....Ebay is a good bet. A lot of them are half price.
.......I think I would prefer a new one ;-)
[I just thot that funny]

If you have any experience with hand versus power tools,
you should be able to understand the difference between
polishing/cleaning something by hand versus an electrical
polisher.


Yes, that analogy seems to makes sense.


I would call it a fairly simple comparison.

In this case it appears to be wrong, but I certainly understand the
logic and appeal of it.


It is practically the same thing.

If you know anything about analogies you should know that they do not
always apply to similar situations and it is not always obvious why
not. Truth be told - I would have guessed that they do better as well


Go with your feelings.

but it would have been just a guess.


But some things are obvious.

Better than my (or your) guessing CR decided to test it and they found
no difference.


Mine is not guessing. I have been testing it for years. I posted about
them here 3 1/2 years ago. I know the difference between electric and
manual brushing. I can see and feel the difference.

Sorry if you don't like the results but unless you have some
other information they are the only ones we have (that and
the opinion of the dentist already mentioned).


I think that is called "double hearsay". I pointed out the bias of that
author.

Me thinks some people are feeling a little guilty for not taking good
care of their kids dental health. And you should IMO, unless perhaps
you live in Siberia/China and your economy isn't good enough to
readily provide such things. Here in the United States, electric
toothbrushes cost little as $5 (five US dollars). The rechargable
batteries cost extra but will save money and trips to the store in a
short while.


I agree. If they work better then it is a small investment.


Yup, if you live in a land where things are plentiful. Otherwise, maybe
you still might not enjoy the idea.

If they work better.....


They are simply wonderful for those of us who appreciate good dental
health.

Thru my own experience, I know without a doubt there is a big positive
difference using an electric toothbrush (given device integrity and
normal use).

The one caveate, especially with kids, is that if they have more
fun with it and use it longer it may help.


I would caution against using an electric toothbrush for a long time.
Like any polisher/cleaner, manual or electric, a brush wears on
things. An electric toothbrush can and will accomplish more of that
abraisive action in a fraction of the time. You can accomplish the
same amount of cleaning in much less time, long as you reach the same
areas. Since you hold the brush head still, applying it to one point
is very easy. So you not only have the pulsing action, you can
concentrate the action in the exact right area (like in the back of
your mouth). But again, not good to do so for a long time, IMO.


You just love to speculate, don't you?


Very much. Inventing things requires lots of speculation. Sometimes I
speculate until dizzy. But the above is mostly fact.

I actually think that is a good thing so long as you can keep track of
the difference between what is your own idle speculations and
what is established fact (or at least one with a modicum of
factual support).


Since I am not an engineer, I have to build the things I invent and
design. I turn speculation into fact all the time.

Since I have 32 teeth and years experience using various electric
toothbrushes, there isn't anything speculative about my opinion here.

Again. Buying rechargeable batteries and a recharger is important, not
to test the thing but to make the thing worthwhile for practical use.

BTW. The new Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) rechargeables are much better
than the old. They last 40% longer, do not degrade when only partially
discharged, and do not hurt the environment like NiCads used to. Any
modern device should use NiMHs. And never charge other types of
batteries in a NiMH charger unless the directions plainly state
otherwise.







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