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Old July 1st 03, 03:29 PM
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Indyguy1 wrote:

Dave wrote:

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But why do men fail to organize and protest?

I have a theory on this. It's because of the way so many

have
been
raised.
Women have traditionally been the organizers in

families.
They
see
to
it
that
the vacations, Dr. appts, home repairs, etc. are booked,

the
family
events are
attended, etc. Boys grow into men that have seen their

mothes
be
the
organizers
and then marry women who continue the pattern.

The best way to stop this is for parents to stop raising

boys
to
expect
this of
women and stop raising girls to accept this as their

solo
role
as
women.
Do it
by example and in word.

I'm doing my share.

Mrs Indyguy


I have some theories too, and they're very different from

Mrs.
Indyguy's. I think that very few men are willing to come

out
and
openly
stand up for the interests of men, in situations where

those
interests
are entirely the opposite of women -- as is the case in

most
domestic
relations matters.

Bear in mind too that men who fight the system are subject

to
the
very
real
threat of jail time as well as losing their worldly

possessions
just
because
they are standing up to the system. Women, on the other

hand,
at
the
very
worst would simply be told to just "shut the f___ up". Not

much
to
lose
there.

Why do you say that?

It's called BIGGER GUNS.... ever hear of it?

Why would they go to jail or lose their worldly
possessions because they protested against the system? Now,

if
their
protest was in the form of refusing to pay child support, then

I
can
see
where that might be true. But organizing and picketing,

etc--why
would
that
merit jail time?

It doesn't, but they get it anyway.


When? When did men get sent to jail for picketing about CS

matters?

I said NOTHING about picketing. I referred to men fighting the

system;
and
yes MANY of them go to jail for doing so.



And if women were out there picketing with them, why do
you think the women would get different treatment?

They DO when it's a "WOMAN'S" issue.

So there was some particular time when a group of men and women

were
picketing, protesting the unfair CS system, and the men were sent

to
jail,
and the women weren't? When?

Great strawman.



Do you have any examples
of this happening?

Go to ANY feminazi website, and there you will have your answer.

But you made the assertion, so you must have a specific time you

are
speaking of.

Precisely WHAT is my assertion?
____________________________________________
Check this out, Chris. It is the thread that you responded to. It

was
about men organizing and protesting the system:

********* But why do men fail to organize and protest?*********

I have a theory on this. It's because of the way so many have been
raised.
Women have traditionally been the organizers in families. They see

to
it
that
the vacations, Dr. appts, home repairs, etc. are booked, the

family
events are
attended, etc. Boys grow into men that have seen their mothes be

the
organizers
and then marry women who continue the pattern.

The best way to stop this is for parents to stop raising boys to

expect
this of
women and stop raising girls to accept this as their solo role as

women.
Do it
by example and in word.

I'm doing my share.

Mrs Indyguy


I have some theories too, and they're very different from Mrs.
Indyguy's.

******I think that very few men are willing to come out and openly
stand up for the interests of men, in situations where those

interests
are entirely the opposite of women -- as is the case in most

domestic
relations matters.*********

Chris speaks he "Bear in mind too that men who fight the system

are
subject to the very real
threat of jail time as well as losing their worldly possessions just

because
they are standing up to the system. Women, on the other hand, at the

very
worst would simply be told to just "shut the f___ up". Not much to

lose
there."



We are discussing picketing and/or having protests. This is the

statement
you made. I asked you to show me where picketing/protesting resulted

in
men
losing property/jail time. But not women. It was a serious question.


I responded ONLY to the post and paragraph above. There was NO mention

of
picketing.


But the whole thread was on picketing and protests, and men coming

together
as a group to protest the system. Which was why I questioned your

response.
And, yes, I do agree that men are far more likely to find themselves in
legal difficulties in today's family court system. But I had never seen

any
stats on men being jsiled for picketing and protesting


I doubt such statistics will or have ever been taken since this knowledge
would jeopardize politically the system in its current state.

btw - this thread is getting to be a good example why men never are able to
organize a good protest.