On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Carlson LaVonne wrote:



Doan wrote:
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Carlson LaVonne wrote:



Doan wrote:

First, so much for the claim that I am on your killfile! ;-)

You may not understand how a killfile works. One can take an individual
off a killfile and put the individual back on a killfile. I temporarily
removed yoiur name from my killfile,


LOL! How convenient!

Yes, it is. It's unfortunate that you didn't understand how a killfile
works.

If I am on your killfile, you wouldn't have seen my post!



Second, my reading comprehension is fine. You said that your
parents spanked you when you were a child, did you not?

Where did I say that?


So now you're claiming that you were never spanked???

I didn't claim anything about my childhood. I'm asking you about your
claim above that I will quote "You said that your
parents spanked you when you were a child, did you not?"

Shall I repost from the archive? ;-)



If that

is the case, then you can certainly response if you feel that
your parents treated you worse than a dog. For that it what
your post seem to imply about spanking parents.

I don't know how to "certainly response" to something. Perhaps you
understand the phrase better than I.


Certainly! ;-)

If suspect you made a typo here, but I don't know why I would "certainly
response" or certainly respond. I made no claim regarding my parents
and my childhood that needs a response or a respond. You are the
individual that made that claim, and you know nothing of my childhood.

Only what you posted on this newsgroup. ;-)



Third, as for the reseach, you claimed to have posted "numerous
times" research where the non-cp alternatives are better than
spanking under the same circumstances. Here is your chance
to prove that you are not a liar. I posted citations from
Gershoff, Baumrind & Larzelere where they said they can't find
such thing. Either you put up or shut up!

I have been on this ng since 1995. If you want the research, go find
it. It is in the archives.


LOL! Once a liar always a liar.

Where is the lie? I haven't been on the ng since 1995? I haven't
posted research? There is no such thing as an archive? Perhaps you
could explain to the rest of us what lie you are accusing me of this time.

The lie is your claim to have posted "numerous times" studies that showed
non-cp alternatives are better than spanking, under the same statistical
analysi. THERE IS NONE! Gershoff can't find any:

"Baumrind et al. (2002) cited several studies that have found
corporal punishment to be less associated with negative outcomes
than are other discipline techniques. Although this may be true,
just because other techniques are worse than corporal punishment
does not make corporal punishment any better. Until positive
effects are linked with corporal punishment, it should not be
routinely recommended as a method of controlling children. However,
it is important to note that their argument does point to the
need for similar research on all methods of parental discipline, not
just corporal punishment."

LIAR!



You have misrepreseated research from the time you arrived here. Back
in the kill file you go.

LaVonne


What is "misrepreseated"? And is this a permanetn killfile or just
"temporary"? ;-)

Yes, typos happen, don't they? You have misrepresented research from
the time you arrived here. And my killfile is temporary. Could you
explain a permanent killfile that cannot be changed by the computer
owner and administrator?

LaVonne

I thought I am back in your killfile? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A KILLFILE IS? ;-)

Doan



Doan



Doan


On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Carlson LaVonne wrote:



Doan,

I assume you are a literate person with reading comprehension skills.
Where in my email did I say anything about my parents? As you so often
do, you totally missed the point of the posing.

I skimmed your posting history, and it appears that you actually may
experience difficulties with reading comprehension. So often your
responses have nothing to do with the posts to which you attempt to be
responding. Your posts regarding research are so far from the actual
research results that I again question your ability to comprehend
written language.

This is nothing cause shame. Many intelligent adults experience similar
difficulties. Often these adults were not diagnosed and experienced no
intervention when they were children.

If you feel you have a learning disability (a reading comprehension
difficulty falls in this category) there are places to go for help.

LaVonne

Doan wrote:


On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Carlson LaVonne wrote:




I keep wondering why people insist on hitting, hurting, and shaming
children in the name of discipline. Children have so much more
cognitive potential that dogs. Yet we provide dogs more protection that
children, and it is so much easier for some individuals to raise and
train a dog in an effective and humane way that it is for these same
individuals to positively parent a human child.


So you feel that your parents treated you worse than a dog???

Doan