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Old January 20th 08, 01:50 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...


"fx" wrote in message
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tlwaggoner wrote:
On Jan 19, 8:18 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message

...
""Dave"" All three injuries were investigated in great detail

G BY WHO?

BW Screw 'who'. What I want to know
BW is why the three incidents were
BW 'investigated in great detail' if, as
BW he says further below, they never
BW happened.
BW
BW Yeah.
BW
BW Ok.
BW
BW Duh.

Good catch, Betty!

***Well? Doesn't that make sense?
Why would they investigate incidents that never occurred?
I wonder if this was really the director, in which case he's obviously
not
too bright of a fella because he practically put his foot in it.
Or, is this someone writing to FX as if they were that director and
pulling
FX's chain?
Doesn't make sense to me that TL posts about her/his experiences with
this
facility, and someone writes to FX in regard, rather than TL, claiming
that
they are the director of the facility and makes such a huge mistake as
denying that incidents were investigated that he also claims never
happened.
Kinda odd. IMHO.


Very strange indeed. Why would the director
of Scar care about what's posted here?



I found it very odd myself that anyone let alone the director of Scar
would be interested in what's happening with this newsgroup!

here is the raw e-mail source as I received it...


P.S. I added to return address to his signature and Web site for the
convenience of others exactly as I found them in the raw source....

the message appears to have been sent both in plain text and hypertext...

FX




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Subject: Correcting misinformation
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:18:13 -0800
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I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of
information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet
source
to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided
the
posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct
misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people
concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain
and
I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared
for.



--No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped
out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in
the
last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations.



--Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no
child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any
other
time.



--Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped
during
a hold or at any other time.



--Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the
hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of
"paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur.



Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization,
but
not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard
on
12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that
occurred
14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has
been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in
great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of
abuse
on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to
attempt
to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful.
Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is
always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is
excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine
in
our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the
insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the
matter. I hope this is helpful.



Dave Ziegler

Executive Director


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Wow. I notice that the e-mail went to other people as well.
Why is FX the only one to receive it who presented it here?