It's pronounced nothing like the former.

As in "Raising Cane" but he has also gone by Kane9

Basically, Ray, you are a coward. You are afraid
to defend your brutal practice of spanking in a
larger arena so try to confine it to this small
one where you know there will be plenty of
supporters.

The MRI guy posted one short message asking you
to cite your references. You respond WITHOUT
citing your sources and throw this little 12 year
old temper tantrum response?

Cowardice over your ignorance, and cowardice
in child rearing practices.

Where did he say a darn thing about child rearing?
You think EVERYBODY is ignorant except you.

It looks more like he just didn't like your MISUSE
of so-called information from his field of research.

I wonder if he saw you get laughed out for trying
the old "I asked my [unnamed] psychiatrist friend
to read your messages and they diagnosed you as.."
thing? Another way you attempted to MISUSE or
coopt some supposed scientific authority.

Ray, Google the archive of this newsgroup for
"Telemetric" and notice that one was tried and
laughed out two different times.

If Kane ever provides and specific citations, watch
to see if it equates spanking to "beating".

Spankers are doomed, Ray. If we don't stop it in
this generation we will in the next. If you don't
volunteer to learn better eventually the cure that
even I don't want will come into play. The law will
stop you.

It's interesting to see you acknowledge that
you do NOT have the constituency you'd like
for your totalitarian wish to IMPOSE anti-spanking.

So tell us, Ray, why do little children defy their parents?

Trick question without giving an age?
Different issues at different stages.

Actually I also saw something on educational TV
about how repeated extreme traumas can rewire the
brain, inhibit growth of certain centers, etc. but
if spanking is traumatic enough to cause this, you
must remember that many children seem to turn lots
of small things into big traumas. Do you think
badly behaved kids who demand that checkout aisle
candy bar and then throw a COW of a temper tantrum..
Is that also traumatic enough to cause "damage" if
it goes that far? Some kids learn no discipline
and are nasty little manipulators. Parents who
allow or reward this may be doing the kid a disservice.

And spare me the textbook parent skills "take them out
of the store" answer with a half hour invested in a
full grocery cart. Forget leaving the bratty kid
sitting in the car stewing to themself. (illegal)

Some other kids act like big time drama queens,
exaggerated pathos. I've seen kids throw giant
temper tantrums over the stupidest crap,
obviously the manipulation WORKED before.

I was oldest of four, and we had empathy and sympathy
for each other all the time, BUT when we recognized a
sibling was pouring on the pathos, we'd all pour on
fake dramatic sympathy to ridicule the one who
started it. They'd often crack a smile, realize how
dumb it was and we'd all end up laughing our butts off
together.

If we got spanked, on the sly we would be sarcastic
about spankings through blue jeans.
"What're ya trying to do, tickle me?" we'd wisper among us.
The token was understood, however.

If the trauma of spanking causes brain problems, then
what about other traumas like needle vaccinations,
falling down, playground fights, or CPS child removal?
Healthy Kids normally have many "owies" worse than spanking.

Please go back to calling all spanking "beating"
because most of the general public will recognize
immediately what kooks you anti-spanking zealots are.