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Old May 24th 04, 04:59 AM
Kane
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Default Oppps....Correction

On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:03:25 -0500, "bobb"
wrote:


"Doug" wrote in message
...
Here is the trend of kinship foster care, expressed in percentage

of
foster
care population, after the correction. As it turns out, the

numbers for
1998 were the same as 1997.
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p...99/ar0199a.htm

1997 29%
1998 29%
1999 26%
2000 25%
2001 24%



Kinship care has taken a beating because CPS fears it cannot control

family
associations and has set unrealistic barriers to prevent licensing.


Lies and bull****. Anyone reading the data and bothering to think can
see that available relatives are being siphoned off to voluntary child
care before CPS intervention, or even afteward, so they are NOT
counted in the lastest data.

Even a
marijuana bust 15 years ago will prevent and aunt or uncle, now with
children of their own, from caring for their neice or nephew.


Crock of ****. I've sat in as an advocate for them on just such
problems and it is NOT the bust that matters, but the aftermath. Did
they get and stay clean? Have they left "the life?"

Out of string of them over the years I've never seen ONE turned down
for a simple possession charge if they could show they had done as I
say above. In fact they are invited to be evaluated and ****tested,
it's called a drug eval, and if they can pass it and they have not had
any use for the past 3 years they are in like flynn.

You are a ****in' liar. States are crying for more of these folks but
cannot get them because the pool is too small. The fantasy that they
are lined up waiting for the kiddies is a crock as well. Workers spend
month cultivating these folks and working to convince them to take the
children.

You are a ****ing liar.

I'm willng to be 99.9 percent of all foster kids try to reestablish
relationship with their families or relatives, prior to, and after
emancipation...


Like that's a great big discovery.

however, depending on how long they've been wards of the
state.. they become strangers.


Crock. Children separated from parents and sib as AT BIRTH and adopted
reintegrate with their families successfully.

Kinship care should not be viewed simply as
having a biological connection but I'd suggest friends of the family

(or
child) should also be considered and sought out prior to foster care

with a
stranger.


And they are. Get yourself educated. About 30 to 40% of the
"strangers" doing foster care were never fosters before the one child
their own kids brought home, or they knew through school or church
connections came into their home. In some states it's referred to as
"special cert," and is exceedingly common.

You lie, or are ignorant as a stump. YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN A FOSTER
PARENT BECAUSE NO FOSTER PARENT IS UNAWARE OF THE SPECIAL CERT
SITUATION. And many special certs (and it just means they were
certified to foster that one child) chose to later become a regular
and take other children because of how deperate they see the children
are for a safe home away from thug parents that abused and neglected
them, sometimes to the edge of death.

Many years ago.. I sought a foster kid who was known to me.. but

because I
was known to the family I, too, was ineligible even thought I was

licensed
and avaibable.


Liar. They damn well saw what a twit you were, how twisted your belief
system, as I've discussed here, and any children place with you would
have to fit a certain profile that would be easier to foster without
as much risk of harm. YOUR kind of foster parent is well known to
workers and to other foster parents.

They sneer at you behind you back for your small minded bigotry and
**** thinking.

Not only do you lie. ...even when you tell the truth from your
perspective it's incorrect because they HIDE THINGS FROM YOU knowing
you'd be a threat to children and their parents if you actually knew
the truth about much.

You've blabber and **** up cases where children should be removed
permanently, or vise versa, **** up cases where children should be
returned. You'd screw over bio parents...who you seem to want to
excuse when they are torturing their children, and damn when they
really haven't done anything but be ignorant.

You hate therapy and therapists, and rehab and healing,...one of the
prime resources for teaching parents to understand their own and the
child's inner life adn what is really going on (instead of your insane
twisted thinking error filled crappola) so they parent safely and
successfully, and get their lives together.

You deny the damage done and want people, little childern mind you, to
just pick up and carry on. You're so damned warped I have trouble
believing it even when I read you plainly saying so.

Yer a menace bobb. Sadly. And you actually would like to help, I can
tell, but you won't listen to anyone that doesn feed your biases. You
deserve the ****in' Doug gives you.

And you lead other borderline folks along with you and spoil THEIR
lives. **** you, bobb.

bobb


Kane