"PolishKnight" wrote in message
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This is an old post, but with so much juicy stuff:

You must be terminally (one can only hope), bored to pull up an old post.

CWQ

pandora wrote:
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

try to shame them, and claim men have been marginalized to get them to
shut
up so the femwits don't have to hear what men have to say.

We hear you, we just point and laugh when you say stupid things.

This is how feminists act when they _believe_ they have power: As
arrogant and dimissive as they claimed the evil patriarchs treated
women. Of course, the second the "good" patriarchs stop chivalrously
protecting them, that's the end of such arrogance.

Obviously, you're either too stupid to get it OR just don't wish to
admit
that the status of women has changed. Don't worry about it, women will
continue to do that which they wish to and those like yourself will be
left
behind.

Which ties into:

Affirmative action was only a stop gap measure to deal with such
as
yourself; those with prejudices, and to force them to comply
with
the
laws.
Most comply these days and so, affirmative action isn't needed
to
the
same
extent.

So you admit that women will always need training wheels to deal with
their shortcomings or boogymen under the bed. Apparently, the sexist
men are able to stick around without special programs.

Think about it: while career women are always just one program short of
stability the sexist men will _always_ be with us ready to put them
back into the kitchen at a moment's notice.

It wasn't special rights at all but rather opportunities that had been
denied them heretofore and to achieve equality. It was the agenda of
such
as you that made AA necessary in the first place. Stuff it boyo.

Gee, plenty of such sexist men came to the states and were denied
opportunities including Catholics and Chinese men and they ultimately
became successful. Oh, wait, they didn't need handholding lest they
run back to the kitchen. Nevermind.

That pity party may have worked in the past but it's quickly becoming
tired and old as these women find it more difficult to blame boogymen
for their failures. What then? Maybe blame space aliens next for
women's inability to compete with men without special programs. :-)

Are you telling me that you actually believe that men/fathers do half
the
child rearing in our society? Guys have a long way to go before they
can
state that with any honesty and until they are actually DOING half, they
won't be getting half custody.

Gee, that might also explain why men were more successfull and earned
more than women: They did the actual work. They don't hand out nobel
prizes for squeezing out babies and staying home with them all day.

Now, suddenly, Marg has discovered MERIT: When she sees that women are
doing some work. Suddenly, she doesn't buy into victim handouts when
most of the pity recipients would be men.

So here are some clues to the source of your deep anger towards men.

I have no anger toward men at all.

Sure you do. If you didn't have anger, then you'd have to acknowledge
that men are actually your protecters and benefactors rather than
oppressors. Biting the hand that has fed you has let you feel more
important, so far. Fortunately, you'll live to see that change.

You
felt used for helping your husband get ahead.

Nope. It was MY choice to do so as we couldn't be together any other
way.
MY salary was necessary in order for us to live/eat/etc, and I cared
about
him getting his degree. It was for both of us that he did so and I was
quite willing to pull my weight.

Yikes, I hate to agree with Marg here but she did live out the
_traditional_ life and worked for a small while long enough to cash in
on her husband's career and that's how it's been ever since.

In fact, most feminists are products either of traditionalism and take
it for granted OR women such as Parg who are angry that they actually
had to work for a living and pay the bills.

Maybe if you had been stuck working and paying the bills without an
evil man around to support you then maybe you might have been a little
more grateful when one came along.

You felt subservient for
being a SAH mom.

Nope. Again, it was a matter of choice (you do know what CHOICE is,
don't
you, well maybe not), to do such as my salary was the lower one and in
those
days, daycares wouldn't take infants. At least not around here where we
live.

Indeed: Such as the choice for women for millennia to raise children
and have men EARN workplace credit and pay the bills. This choice
explains women's "lack of opportunities" moreso than evil sexists
hiding under the bed.