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Old June 30th 03, 05:53 PM
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Indyguy1 wrote:

Dave wrote:

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But why do men fail to organize and protest?

I have a theory on this. It's because of the way so many have

been
raised.
Women have traditionally been the organizers in families. They

see
to
it
that
the vacations, Dr. appts, home repairs, etc. are booked, the

family
events are
attended, etc. Boys grow into men that have seen their mothes be

the
organizers
and then marry women who continue the pattern.

The best way to stop this is for parents to stop raising boys to
expect
this of
women and stop raising girls to accept this as their solo role

as
women.
Do it
by example and in word.

I'm doing my share.

Mrs Indyguy


I have some theories too, and they're very different from Mrs.
Indyguy's. I think that very few men are willing to come out and

openly
stand up for the interests of men, in situations where those

interests
are entirely the opposite of women -- as is the case in most

domestic
relations matters.

Bear in mind too that men who fight the system are subject to the

very
real
threat of jail time as well as losing their worldly possessions just
because
they are standing up to the system. Women, on the other hand, at the

very
worst would simply be told to just "shut the f___ up". Not much to

lose
there.

Why do you say that?


It's called BIGGER GUNS.... ever hear of it?

Why would they go to jail or lose their worldly
possessions because they protested against the system? Now, if their
protest was in the form of refusing to pay child support, then I can

see
where that might be true. But organizing and picketing, etc--why

would
that
merit jail time?


It doesn't, but they get it anyway.



When? When did men get sent to jail for picketing about CS matters?


I said NOTHING about picketing. I referred to men fighting the system; and
yes MANY of them go to jail for doing so.



And if women were out there picketing with them, why do
you think the women would get different treatment?


They DO when it's a "WOMAN'S" issue.


So there was some particular time when a group of men and women were
picketing, protesting the unfair CS system, and the men were sent to jail,
and the women weren't? When?


Great strawman.



Do you have any examples
of this happening?


Go to ANY feminazi website, and there you will have your answer.


But you made the assertion, so you must have a specific time you are
speaking of.


Precisely WHAT is my assertion?






There are several elements in this reluctance of men to openly

oppose
women. One is old-fashioned chivalry, which (despite all the

changes
in
society) remains an important factor. Another is that, to put it
bluntly, heterosexual men are usually on the lookout for women as

sexual
partners, and they realize that appearing hostile to the interests

of
women will not help them in that regard. Still another is that

men
are
more individualistic than women, and have a greater tendency to be
self-reliant.

In my opinion, the first step to changing the situation is for men

to
understand that there ARE scenarios where their interests are

totally
the opposite of women, and where there is a zero-sum game in

operation.
In short, we must have an end to the situation where, in the

battle
of
the sexes, only one side shows up. Balance will not be restored,

and
the two sexes will not achieve a fairer equilibrium, without an

interim
period of men taking back what has been stolen from them by

feminism.