On 12/6/10 8:06 AM, carole wrote:
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If you actually read some of the articles it says epidemics were caused by the smallpox vaccination.

I know what it says. They could say the sky is green, but that doesn't make it so.

But they're injecting live virus into people. Why wouldn't it cause the disease its supposed to cure?

Because it is not the smallpox virus. It was cowpox, a different virus.


There has been a little inventive white washing it seems by the pharma cartel in order to promote
their
vaccines as safe and efficacious.

OK, how many people got small pox last year? Throughout the world? Zero.

The disease was on the decline before vaccination apparently.

Apparently?

Well yes if you read the historical research.

No, you say "apparently." That means that's the way it looked, not the way it was.

Well yes, that is the way it looks and that is the story the the anti-vaxers are telling.
And when I say story, this is not to mean it is fiction, but that is it the version they are selling.
Whereas the vaxer story is that they stopped it.
Story means version of accounts.



Vaccination caused more cases of the disease than occurred naturally in many instances.

No, it didn't.

You seem pretty sure of it.

Yes, I am.

From what I read, I wouldn't be so certain - the jury is still out on that one.
But not only was vaccination responsible for certain outbreaks,
http://whale.to/a/smallpox77.htm#Epi...vaccinati on:

The whale to site is a horrible site when it comes to accurate info.

Its not inaccurate so much as alternative.

It's inaccurate because the quality of the information is poor. Period.

He has some good links.

Yeah? And some what? Poor info with some good links - that's a bad site.

And not so much alternative as containing truth, some truth.

Some truth. As in very little truth.

The biggest conspiracy from your viewpoint would be how John D Rockefeller started the pharmaceutical business
and gave massive donations to medical schools.

That's not a conspiracy from my viewpoint. Rich people gave away money.
Big deal. It still happens.

Big business doesn't give money without wanting something in return.

That was his personal business. The person who used to be the richest
man in the world (Bill Gates) is giving away money for vaccines, health
and education. What do you think he wants in return?

What you're not figuring into the equation is the fact that a lost of what passes for truth that is bandied
about, comes from big corporations or vested interests.

You mean like the people who sell unproven treatments as if they really work? That's alternative medicine.

There maybe some dubious alternative remedies, but they pale into comparison to the massive fraud of
allopathic medicine.

Gee, over 50% of cancer victims have their lives saved vs. about 0% by
alternative medicine. While some pharmaceutical companies have horrible
advertising practices and should be held accountable for providing all
research results of their drugs, I don't see any evidence of massive fraud.

When the whole of a subject is looked into, in an unbiased way, you can often find that what passes for
truth
is in fact nothing more than propaganda.

Yeap, you described alternative medicine (aka conjecture-based medicine or con-med) perfectly.

And I'm talking about allopathic medicine.
Its time you did some unbiased research.

I have. You have or anyone else has yet to show alternative medicine
does any good.

You need to keep an open mind, and do unbiased research.

I have. Thanks. So me the good evidence that alternative medicine works.

I don't thnk you have.

That's because you don't think.

Jeff