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Old August 5th 05, 02:04 AM
Jared and Simon Grace
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Jared and Simon Grace wrote:


Ben Stiller (39) and wife Christine Taylor (34) welcomed Quinlin Dempsey
Stiller on July 10th in Los Angeles. The baby weighed 8 pounds 2 ounces.
Despite Stiller's Jewish (Jewish-Irish) roots, if they're raising their
son Jewish, I hope the Stillers don't circumcise their son and join the
growing number of Jews who leave their males intact having a happy
cry-free baby naming ceremony. They seem like smart people and I'd like
to hope they did the research and decided circumcision wasn't something
they didn't want to force on their son (being Jewish or not).



You can scratch off Irish-Catholic, since his mom (Anne Meara)
converted to Judaism. In the eyes of the TALMUD, conversion is wholly
accepted, thus Ben is to be considered Halachically Hebraic
(full-blooded Jew). In spite of Ben's decision to marry a SHIKSA
(Gentile, non-Jewish woman), I sincerely hope that Taylor follows in
her mother-in-law's footsteps, so she can officially wish her boy a
happy MAZEL-TOV!ehe Unlike you and your apparent live-in lover over
there, I have attended my fair share of BRISSES in NYC (Mother of
American Judaism - more Jews than Jerusalem), and it's over faster than
you can say, "two raving anti-circ MESHUGGENER FAYGELEHS!" eheee
Secular or not, the overwhelming majority of Jews circumcise. Jews
begin by comprising a measly 1/4 of 1% of the world's population, so in
your estimation, how many Jews from that number refuse to circumcise!?
DOH! Citing the rare few kooks is not going to change thousands of
years of customs.
Cry-free!? Listening to your SHPIEL is more painful than any
circumcision ever could be!heheh DOH! The pain (if any) during RIC
(routine infant circumcision) or a BRIS (Jewish circumcision ceremony
on the eighth day of life), is no more painful than being birthed
through the womb! I can't think of anything more traumatic for a mother
& her newborn than the birthing process, can you?!


No pain, eh? None at all... like being born? Then offer up your little
8-day-old girls' clitorises to be hacked off, too. Fair's fair. Better
yet, since it's just like being born (pushed through the birth canal),
why don't (((YOU))) get circ your clitoris circumcised (no pain-relief)
right now to prove it, you uneducated, Jew.

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http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.com/

Yet, I do not see
you petitioning procreation!? DOH! The mere fact that a baby wails
during circumcision (or any medical procedure for that matter) is not
necessarily indicative of pain. Newborns & infants shall always be
sensitive to light, sound & touch. Once again, if foreskin grew on
fingers and toes, we wouldn't hear a peep out of your scab scavenger
(coined by yours truly!eh) ilk.
If anything, a BRIS is the least painful method of circumcision -
safest & most commonly performed medical procedure, occurring more
frequently than tooth extraction. A MOHEL (rabbi who specializes in
circumcision) has more experience performing circumcisions in one month
than most doctors do in a year. Unlike secular circumcisions in
hospitals, traditional MOHELS use different techniques. The baby is not
strapped down. Instead, he is placed on a double pillow, on the lap of
the SANDAK (grandfather or godfather), held by warm, loving hands. The
device used is called the Mogen circumcision clamp. The instruments
used are autoclaved (heat-steam sterilized). Gloves are also used, and
all MOHELS must follow the same techniques of sterilization and asepsis
that hospitals and doctors use. In 40 seconds or less, the BRIS is
over! 40 seconds vs. a lifetime of having to SHLEP around a monstrosity
that consistently necessitates medical intervention? The answer is a
relative no-brainer!! -D, "The anti-circumcision craze has developed
because groups of conservative, sensitive, medically misinformed
individuals, some with fanatical emotionalism, have not seen the
consequences of a society where males are not circumcised. While
medical prophylactic measures are readily accepted by our society,
surgical prophylaxis is in danger of being discarded by an overemphasis
on the return to the "natural." The intense pain of natural childbirth
is seen as a reward while the minor discomfort, if any, of circumcision
is magnified beyond reason." - DR.GERALD WEISS
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