On 23 Nov 2003 20:02:29 GMT, Ignoramus22857
wrote:

In article k.net,
bobb wrote:


"Ignoramus22857" wrote in message
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In article ,
Doan
wrote:
If this is true as you claimed why is the crime rate so in the
50's?
Why is it so low in Singapore?

Do not forget people, US crime rate is to a very large extent a
"race
issue". 53% of the offenders were black and only 45% white in
1996,
according to the FBI statictics. That's even though blacks are a
small
fraction of the population.

That's why it's expressed as a percentage.

I think I feel a bigot baggin' comin' on.

Do you know anything at all about the black experience in this country
beyond Rochester, Step and Fetchit'and Shaft movies?


In 1950s, blacks were not liberated as much, did not have easy
access
to weapons, etc. Liberation of them, while it had a lot of
desirable
effects, unfortunately had a great effect on black crime rate.

Like whites began to notice the prevalent black and black crime that
had always been around. Funny, how when you press people into a Ghetto
with each other the crime rate for ghetto dweller upon ghetto dweller
goes up.

I don't suppose proximity has much to do with it though. "Those folks"
can just mount up and go out to the burbs to do their crime where the
police presence and response is not as high...oh wait...

You apparently haven't known any blacks well enough for them to
familiarize you with DWN or DWB...Driving While ****** or Driving
While Black is the common experience of black people, men especially
(the women are though to be just servants coming and going to work)
have of being rousted when they leave the Ghetto.


A lot of crimes, such as forcible rape, was not as well reported
in
1950s, either.

I strongly suspect that if you break crime down well, the
difference
between 1950s and now would not be as huge for, say, white middle
class people.

I would also be very surprised if trash criminals were grown in
nonviolent homes.

Now you are on to something.

I am too lazy to look for it, but my sense is that
these criminals grow up amongst drunk, drug abusing, wife beating,
child beating retards, and not paragons of respectful, attentive
methods of child rearing.

More or less. What has the race of someone got to do with it, given
your prior examples?




You're not being very politically correct. Remove the black
statistics for
CPS, crime, public aid, and welfare.
Go a step further... elimiate the cost illegal immigrants our
costing this
country.

Um, with all due respect, what does the cost of illegal immigration
have to do with what I was discussing?

Let's say that illegal immigration is very expensive.

When it is slowed or stopped anywhere, you betcha. Those farmers and
clothing sweat shops get real ****ed at the loss in profits their low
low wages to illegals afforded them.

Does it change
anything in regards to what I said? Or let's say that it was
cheap. Would it change anything in regards to what I said?

I think so, if you can get your head around bobb's rabid racism. He
thinks that if the hispanics and blacks would get out there would be a
world of jobs for whites. Yeah, I can see all those white tomato
pickers now, and the landscape yard men, the ditch diggers and
cleaners, the chemical farm spray workers...sure.

All would be white....and all would be pulling down better wages or
we'd see the 30's all over again and the rise of unions big time.

Immigrants and blacks, brought as slaves or snuck in over our boarders
are the foundation of our economy. If you stopped all blacks and other
minorities from working right this instant, this would be a third
world country in a month.

Whites would just sit and whine about the lazy darkies not doin' their
jobs.

Welcome to Usenet Bigot Country...and I used to think these ngs were
about parenting and CPS.

Best.

Kane