Law enforcement should not be taking over parenting. They should however
help those that are unable to handle their children, but I think their
approach is a little off.
"Fern5827" wrote in message
...
Bill, it is very lucrative to keep the industry alive which disempowers
parents.

Why, a whole industry is built upon the *experts* coming into a family to
teach
them how to conduct themselves.

Some have declared it a "War against Parents."

Billy demonstrates the absurdity of the law enforcement industry taking
over
parenting:

Subject: Scots call for electronic monitoring of 8yo-excess crime
From: "billy f"
Date: 7/11/2003 4:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Why not just spanked their defiant little asses. I laugh every I read a
story like this. When are these so call experts going to wake up a
realize
that these kids need discipline and tough love. Hopefully one day the
will
see that kids who are brought up in a loving, but firm home are far less
likely to be repeated offenders. Parents all over the world are laughing
with me on this because they know that their children do not have these
kind
of problems and know the reasons why. There is obviously more to than
spanking, but spanking does play a role.

"Fern5827" wrote in message
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=33257


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8-year-olds face electronic tagging
High-tech monitoring proposed
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Posted: June 25, 2003
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In an effort to crack down on an epidemic of youth crime, Scotland is
considering a proposal to electronically tag repeat offenders, possibly
as
young as eight years old, the daily Scotsman reported.

Complaints about youth crime and anti-social behavior have been
overwhelming,
says Margaret Curran, the Scottish Executive minister for communities.


Margaret Curran (photo: The Scotsman)

"We need to do what has to be done," she said. "If that's tough then
that's
tough. We are not helping these young people at all if we don't try to
deal
with their behavior."

Under the proposal, parents who fail to help impose tagging orders on
their
out-of-control children will face fines and even jail, the Scotsman
said.

In an interview on BBC Scotland's Politics Show, Curran said no
specific
age
would be stated in a consultation paper the Executive will submit on
the
issue.


However, when asked if children as young as 8 would be tagged, she
replied:
"Some people might say that we should. Some people might say there
should
be a
higher age limit. I will take a view when we see the evidence."

The Scotsman reported Curran had confirmed 10 was the lowest age for
tagging
being considered.

England and Wales already have tagged 4,000 pre-teens since 2001 with a
device
that sends a signal to a transmitter in the offender's home and relays
it
to a
central control. Similar monitoring has been done in the U.S. for more
than a
decade.

For the past year, Scottish courts have had the option of electronic
tagging as
an alternative to prison but only for adult offenders.

Statistics from the Scottish Executive show a 34 percent increase in
breaches
of the peace by juveniles since 1991.

"You get people coming in at 16 or 17 who are almost beyond redemption,
hardened criminals," Curran told the Scottish newspaper. "Or having
engaged in
enough behavior to feel as if they're in a 'them and us' situation. We
want to
introduce them to behavior modification at an earlier age."

Civil libertarians and child advocacy groups are wary of the proposal,
however,
and some child psychologists insist the tags would become a "badge of
honor"
for rebellious youth.

"What tagging does to kids is give them status," said Jack Boyle, who
has
worked with older youths who have been tagged. "The only peers
anti-social
kids
have are other anti-social kids."

He added though, he understands the "government has to do something
about
this
minority who wreak havoc and misery."

"Tagging can have a short-term effect," he said. "It might keep them
from
committing a crime, keep them away from certain areas or keep them in
the
house."

The Scottish National Party's justice spokeswoman, Nicola Sturgeon,
said
legislators must "ensure tagging is not a cheap alternative to solving
anti-social behavior."

"Children need to change by having their offending addressed, and they
must
have the opportunity to do so instead of all cases resulting in
electronic
tagging," she said, according to the Scottish Daily Record newspaper.





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