Doan wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, toto wrote:


On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:39:22 -0800, Doan wrote:


"While some may find it strange that reprimands might increase the chances
of a child going into the street, the literature on the experimental
analysis of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention to
inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of more inappropriate
behavior. Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason with
their children about dashing into the street will likely to have the
opposite impact. Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward
it."

Of course that is true. However, you fail to note that spanking also
increases the rate of children going into the street according to
Embry. A little honesty would be nice Doan. Note that most of those
who advocate for non-spanking do not advocate scolding, reprimanding,
or nagging either. I would say that there are much better ways of
keeping children from going into the street (depending on the age of
the child involved, different methods will be used). The most
important part of parenting is catching them being good and giving
them attention when their behavior is appropriate. Stating your rules
in positive terms is also good. "Hold hands near the street:" "Walk
on the sidewalk." "Cross streets at the corner after looking both
ways." All of these are reasonable ways of defining the rules for
children. Then praise them when they do the right thing. It works
much better than punishment *after* the fact anyway. Prevention is
much better than punishment of any kind.


Do you know that the Embry study found no correlation between safe play
concepts and actual safe play for children at this age? So telling
them to "hold hands near the street", "walk on the sidewalk"...etc
is USELESS! So the safest way is to always superive your kids or
keep them the backyard if possible. But again, this study has nothing
to do with spanking/no-spanking!

You going to debate someone that does not have the study to refer to?
Didn't you claim I was trying to do that?

Didn't you try that very same thing with me once, thinking I didn't have
the study?

And didn't you get yourself into considerable trouble with that assumption?

Trying for another round?

I don't think Toto will play. We'll see. Give her the study, or link her
up to that online electronic copy offered by the source you alluded to
(copied and pasted in a quote by the source) or stop trying to abuse
Toto and harass her, as it is so obviously all you ever have brought to
this ng.

The setup, the harassment, the gloating shouts of "I DARE YOU I DOUBLE
DARE YOU" like the poor sad child you really are.

You are nothing but a common bully.

0:- But we loves yah anyway.




Doan




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Isn't it interesting that the more honest an author appears to be,
the more like ourselves we think him. And the less so, how very
alien he doth appear? Kane 2006