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Old January 8th 08, 09:00 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Peter Moran[_3_]
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Default Bad news for liars, good news for kids

"Carole" wrote in message
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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote:
State's autism rises despite vaccine change

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And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement
"thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can
only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University
of Kentucky (if at all).

Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and
thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only
state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere.
Aus has its Carole, Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its
[wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James
Dean, has its Jan.

None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia
have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places
tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just
stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at
each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say.

Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have
been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us
pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops
and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the
evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense.

They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate
their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2-
year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get
you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you
will realize it.


Yes, we much-maligned "naysayers" have earned a little triumphalism, I
think.

Most people don't need any depth of knowledge about science or medicine.
We can't blame them for that ---that is why we have scientists and why
we
have doctors, just as we have other kinds of specialists to build our

homes
and fly our planes.


But the problem is the people become disempowered and aren't allowed to
think for themselves. They are taught to defer to "experts" and "reliable
sources" for everything which leaves them vulnerable.


I cannot agree that this is so. Most societies work hard at having a
well-educated population. And the wise person does understand their own
limitations. When I have a urological or orthopoedic problem I defer to
experts in those fields.

People should think for themselves because the experts aren't always right
and often get used by vested interests to push for dubious purposes.


That is true, but it applies equally (at minimum) to those pushing
alternative theories and products (including yourself). Whence the
assumption that they can be trusted ? Any decision still has to be based
upon the available evidence, and if you dismiss the evidence of one side as
always tainted you are simply responding to your own biases. Mostly
alt.med is the leavings of the mainstream, theories that have been well
tried out and found wanting. Do you ever take the pains to try and
understand why they have been dropped?



What we can fault some for is the arrogant assurance that their own
half-baked medical beliefs are undoubtedly correct and their refusal to

even
look at overwhelmingly contrary evidence. The thiomerosal-autism things

is
only the latest of many dearly held alt theories that have been proved
wrong, but that doesn't seem to register either..


I haven't got "arrogant assurance", what I've got is reasoned belief
rather
than taking at face value everything from "experts" and "reliable sources"


But you are taking heaps of matters "at face value" about cell salts.
Science offers you ways of ensuring that making sure you are not fooling
yourself (meaning that the effects you think you observe are placebo-
related). The main difference between the mainstream and alternative
medicine lies therein.

PM



who are, either wittingly or unwittingly, serving the interests of various
cartels, where science is twisted and incomplete with all concept of the
ether being removed.
In a world where knowledge is power, they prefer to keep the people in the
dark -- so much easier to control that way.





Carole
www.cellsalts.net


PM