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Old July 9th 03, 10:51 AM
billy f
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Default Embarrassing Students Isn't "Discipline"

Once again your forming a generalization that all children raised with tough
discipline "already have problems". I really don't think you know how the
human mind works. If a child is raised with this kind of discipline from day
one he will except it as the norm and will not question it. Most children
never have a problem with the way their parents raise them until outside
forces feed their minds with crap like "your parents did that to you, that's
child abuse" Its only then that they start resenting their parents for
raising them the way they have. Children raised with military type
discipline that is not to harsh or demeaning are usually from my experience
very strong, competitive, athletic masculine individuals. They are usually
leaders more than followers and they don't go around whining about
everything like children raised in more permissive households do. Of course
if the parents are mean and sadistic like the military can sometimes be the
child could grow up with emotional problems.

The last part of your statement is a very politically correct one. Children
sometimes are humiliated by teachers because the student is humiliating
others including the teacher. Sometimes letting someone see how it feels is
the best solution to a problem. People like you think that your doing right
by sheltering children from reality. The truth is in the real world you
disrespect someone they are going to do the same to you.

"LaVonne Carlson" wrote in message
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This type of discipline is traumatizing regardless of how the child is

raised
at home. Children raised with military discipline at home already have
problems. Confronting the same disciplinary in school only confounds the
problem created by the discipline experience in the child's home.

Schools, even as a last resort, do not need to use humiliation. Children

are
not stupid. Children understand humiliation and disrespect, regardless of

how
they are parented. Humiliation teaches children to humiliate others. Is

that
what we want our children to learn?