"john" wrote in message ...

"carole" wrote in message

What you're describing john sounds like the patriarchal culture, where the macho men reign by secrecy, authoritarian regimes,
hierarchical systems and brute force.
It is suggested that the patriarchial culture is a war system http://www.newparadigmjournal.com/Oc...patriarchy.htm


never thought about patriarchy, but did see a matriarchal culture in Mexico where the men and women seemed to have swopped roles,
men were considered pretty useless and women sat around smoking!

maybe patriarchy is the old name for pathocracy, as there are plenty of men who don't seek to dominate etc.


The Genesis of Patriarchy

http://www.newparadigmjournal.com/Oc...patriarchy.htm

"The development of patriarchal society is related to the invention of something that from then on has been called "war," and
patriarchy BECOMES dependent on the ongoing existence of war(s) even in so-called "peace times." Without war, the people of
conquered communities and societies could easily liberate themselves from their conquerors' rule. The logic of patriarchy is thus
the logic of war, which means that all the social institutions invented by patriarchy are principally drawn from war experiences.

1) Patriarchy invented a political system based on the invention of the state, which meant the hierarchical dominance of armed men
over the conquered people and the dominance of men over women, because women were at the centre of pre-patriarchal society and were
responsible for the maintenance of its egalitarian principles.

2) Patriarchy invented an economy based on the the plunder of other peoples' property, since then called "private" property (privare
= to rob), and on an always more systematic exploitation of the conquered, especially the women, because women in matriarchal
society had control over the means of production, were the producers and distributors, the PROVIDERS of concrete wealth-life, food,
and security - and were responsible for the integration of everyone into the community (Vaughan 1997).

3) Patriarchy invented a society split into social classes, "races," generations, and "sexes." This means, especially since then,
that women were regarded as being subject to men by nature, in order to prevent them from ever again being able to re-establish a
matriarchal society.

4) Patriarchy invented a "God-Father" or "male creator-religion" based on the "great warrior," plunderer, proprietor, or "big man"
(Godelier 1987), who was considered able to give life and was legitimized to take it. The Great Mother or Goddess was replaced by
the idea and the ideology of an omnipotent, violent, and jealous single God, an abstract patriarchal "mother-father."

5) Patriarchy invented a technology based on "war as the father of all things," namely by beginning to transform the pre-patriarchal
philosophy of alchemy into a patriarchal one. This means that since then men have systematically tried to use existing (female)
knowledge about life and nature in order to appropriate it, to pervert it into a means of control over life and nature, finally,
trying to replace life, women, and nature themselves through "technological progress" (Werlhof 2004a), the project of a "second
creation."

6) Patriarchy invented a psychology that defined the ways men could develop their "masculation" (Vaughan 1977), and their
competitive, ego-logical patriarchal individuality (Girard 1992), opposing community, women, and nature."


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Carole
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