nimue wrote:
Raving wrote:
Raving Beauty wrote:
nimue wrote:
toto wrote:
I am a
teacher and I can tell you that kids who get As usually do so
because they love learning.

Bull****.

Getting straight A's necessitates one PLAY THE GAME

A) Feed teachers demand for narcissistic supply

B) Appease teachers demand for form over substance

C) Always subordinate the truth to being an A student

etc.
I would roughly agree with Raving Beauty on this one.

Those classes that I learned the most in, were the ones that I
*really* had to struggle to learn. Coasting along with a near
perfect score is dumb.

That may be true, but that has nothing to do with what Raving Beauty said.
No.

Specifically in this situation; RB's summarizing is proximately,
appropriate.
The student's essential regard is for the 'Grade Score'.

Concern with regard to ...

* Demonstrated "level of proficiency"
* Relative improvement of ability and/or understanding
* creation and/or development of NEW skills and/or understanding

.... is quite beside the point as far as the student is concerned.

The student has mastered that essential knowledge.

"Winning is the only thing that is important". Give the person what
they want.

Being penalized for struggling and failing is dumb, dumb and dumber.

Yeah, RB didn't say that, either. ...
Agreed.

...FYI, that is a very touchy subject. If
you have a kid who does every homework, has perfect attendance, and gives
his all AND still fails tests and quizzes, what do you do? Do you pass him?
After all, he has tried. Still, his writing is terrible and his reading
comp almost nil. So, what do you do?
Dunnoh' , 'cept to point out that the essential concern is on improving
skills and increasing understanding.

"Kissing ass" for brownie points and celebrating that accomplishment is
a predominant, awkward and counterproductive issue. It is worthwhile
and important. It is also limited and misleading.

Cordially,

Raving