Subject: Need a couple of ideas and resources
From: oaway (Joelle)
Date: 9/16/2004 9:22 PM Eastern Standard Time
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Okay bebel you really are an idiot and I was right to give up on you a long
time ago, but let's get some things straight.

No Joelle I am not an idiot, get that straight.

You are blaming her for her sons mental illness and I am appalled
Yea, that's right. That's why I said this wasn't her fault. She asked if
there was something she was missing. I suggested that maybe her son didn't
feel as close to her lover as she does and would like him to be. Sometimes
parents are so anxious that everyone be one big happy family that they don't
see everything.

She was confused as to why her son would say he was she left him alone when
he
had her boyfriend who loved him. I'm suggesting that he's not as close to
her
boyfriend as she might think and to him, it felt alone. No way did I say
that
was her fault. Boys and mothers are complicated things.

O.K. I see where you said it was not her fault, I missed that somehow, I let
the way you belittled her choices and used her relationship as a possible
scapegoat for her sons behavior bringing me to feel you blamed her for his
illness , sorry and I know when to admit I am wrong.
I also have experienced some of the same behaviors she described with my
daughter, she would go to school and tell her teachers there was no food in the
house when the reality was there was not what she preferred to eat she had
wiped her favorites out already.She has also used the left home alone , and she
hates living with me, as well the doctors themselves told me it was part of her
illness , that she truly believes these things or is looking for the attention
she needed to take attention off of her behaviors she was being called on. I
was also told that people with mental illnesses are clever and manipulative as
well. I going on what I know saw it as you blamed her lifestyle as a trigger to
his behaviors, thus the blaming her for his illness. Your first post where you
state she had you filtered did not irk my craw, it was the second where you had
to take it that step where I think you know is judgemental and damn you just
can't help yourself can you?

Geesh. You can abuse me all you want and dismiss me and call me mean and
judgmental filter me and all kinds of things, but my guess is, I'm probably
know more what Kitcat is going through than anyone else here. Ironic eh?

No not ironic, I am sorry to hear that your family has been touched by mental
illness, it is something only people that have been there and are living with
it can understand.
I do as well.

Not that I care...... Heh

I'll say some prayers for your grandchild tonight. God knows she needs them.

You know Joelle keep your prayers, your god is not the god I know. Nor the god
that blessed our family with this child to love.
the name is Bev get that straight.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle