Ian wrote:


My buddies house (with 5 kids) looks
like a bomb has hit it. I could not live that way.


This is also a choice. You don't have to live
in a pig sty with multiple kids. As you say, if your friend
and his wife can spend all that time gaming, they could
instead devote a small portion of that time to tidying
the house (and teaching the kids to pick up after
themselves). Several of the large families I know
have the neatest homes you'll see.

Best wishes,
Ericka