Beliavsky wrote in
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On Nov 14, 10:45 am, enigma wrote:
Beliavsky wrote
groups.co
m:.

i think encouraging *anyone* to have 'lots of kids' is
irresponsible. i'm all for encouraging your children to
choose good, kind & hopefully intelligent partners (i'm a
marriage optional kind of person, but i know you aren't),
but i think even mentioning desire for potential
grandchildren is, well, rude & presumptuous.

On average, less intelligent and responsible people have
more kids than their opposites, and that's a bad thing
for society. Some people worry about global warming. I
worry about this.

the world is already at a breaking point for supporting
the
human population.

Paul Ehrlich and others were making such arguments in the
1970s, but since then world population has grown and living
standards have increased. More people means more ideas
about how to use resources efficiently, as Julian Simon
said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Lincoln_Simon
"His 1981 book The Ultimate Resource is a criticism of the
conventional wisdom on population growth, raw-material
scarcity and resource consumption. Simon argues that our
notions of increasing resource-scarcity ignore the
long-term declines in wage-adjusted raw material prices.
Viewed economically, he argues, increasing wealth and
technology make more resources available; although supplies
may be limited physically they may be viewed as
economically indefinite as old resources are recycled and
new alternatives are developed by the market. Simon
challenged the notion of a pending Malthusian catastrophe
-that an increase in population has negative economic
consequences; that population is a drain on natural
resources; and that we stand at risk of running out of
resources through over-consumption. Simon argues that
population is the solution to resource scarcities and
environmental problems, since people and markets innovate.
His critique was praised by Nobel Laureate economists
Friedrich Hayek & Milton Friedman, the latter in a 1998
foreword to The Ultimate Resource II, but has also
attracted many critics, such as Paul R. Ehrlich and Albert
Bartlett ."

ya know, i don't give a rat's ass about the economy, since
that's a societal construct, but actual *resources* are
finite. just because more people makes procuring resources
easier & therefore cheaper still doesn't address the issue of
what we do when they run out... and they WILL run out.
are you saying you have the right to drive that big 8MPG car
because overpopulation makes getting that fuel cheap for you?
doesn't matter than in 3 generations or less there won't be
oil because, well, it's good for the economy right now to
waste it?
i see IQ has nothing to do with wisdom, once again.
lee