On 10/28/10 7:18 PM, carole wrote:
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On 10/26/10 6:20 PM, carole wrote:
Deadly Medical Mistakes Exposed

October 28, 2003
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp...r y_in_us.htm

New York, New York - New information has been presented showing the degree to which Americans have been subjected to injury and
death by medical errors. The results of seven years of research reviewing thousands of studies conducted by the NIA now show
that
medical errors are the number one cause of death and injury in the United States.

This is extremely misleading. It includes people who died from infections, and after getting potentially life-saving surgeries
when that had very low chances of survival. In addition, includes people who died as a result of bed sores, which is a problem
with their care givers, not the hospitals.

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One thing I've learned about allopaths, they are very good at rationalisation.

No, I would like to hear how you try to justify laying 250.000 cases of bedsores and "malnutrition" at the door of convenitonal
medicine, to mention just two dubious matters, in the effort to come up with the "leading cause of death" claim. You might also
note that most of these figures are decades old, and involve major extrapolations.

Maybe you're right about the bedsores and the extrapolation.
However, you lot go to any lengths to rationalise allopathic medicine even denying the undeniable.


It is not that conventional medicine does not have risks, or that we perhaps should be able to do better in preventing avoidable
adverse events. How does this make "alternative" medicine look good, when it can never has to even try to deal with a comparable
spectrum of illness?
PM

Because allopathic medicine is based on pharmaceuticals.

Allopathic medicine is based on scientific evidence.

Until they deal with the corruption in the pharmaceutical industry that suppresses real cures and substitutes with life-long
treatment because its more profitable, people will continue to knock it.

You have yet to prove that "real cures" have been suppressed.

The pharmaceutical cartel promotes its products feircely and relentlessly, it has its insiders in every government organisation that
matters, and it suppresses alternative remedies.

Gee, prove it. You are talking about a conspiracy that doesn't exist.

so until the corruption is dealt with don't try to justify it to me.

Corruption is never appropriate. However, you have yet to prove that
there is the type of corruption in medicine.

Anybody who supports allopathic medicine is basically a dishonest person.

Con-med (conjecture-based medicine, aka alternative medicine) has not
been shown to work. So basically, people are selling beliefs. This makes
anyone selling con-med basically dishonest. As far as allopathic
medicine is concerned, think about the millions of lives saved by
vaccines, including over 1000 today (the death rate from measles was
about 2000 a day only 10 years ago, but was reduced to about 450 by
vaccines in 2008).

Jeff