On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 07:23:41 -0800, Doan wrote:

==Anti-spanking zealotS wanted to repeal Section 43. They appealed all the
==way to Canadian highest court. The court upheld Section 43.

Yes. And virtually outlawed "spanking" at the same
time.

Ironically, if the court had simply declared Sec. 43
unconstitutional and left it at that, parents in
Canada would not have had the benefit of the court's
guidance vis-a-vis corporal punishment that they
do now.

== No matter
==how you spin it, Ivan, you lost! Live with it.

Not hard to do, since the court defined acceptable
force that can be used on children so narrowly as
to all but ban it altogether. Not the best result
that could be hoped for, but close.

== Give parents better
==alternatives

As you are quite aware, effective alternatives
have been known for centuries.

== and spanking will wither on its own.

Unfortunately, some parents will always want
to to hit their children, because the parents
are stupid, incompetent, hide-bound, religious wackos,
sadists, punishment-obsessed authoritarians or a
combination of the above.

What the Supreme Court has done is to tell these
folks that if they assault their kids with anything
more than the merest tap ("transitory and trifling"!),
they can go to jail.

So, yeah, that's a result I can live with. How about
you? Do you welcome the court's ruling that children
under the age of two and teenagers may not be
hit; that no implements of any kind may be used;
that blows on the head and face are unlawful; that
any force employed must be limited to what a court
would regard as "transitory and trifling"?

== Parents know their
==kids more than you or any "expert"!

I take it then that your parents knew that
their treatment of you would turn you into a
spanking-obsessed, porn-addicted, one-track-minded
****** who would dedicate his life to defending
the practice of beating on children.

If so, kudos to them. They succeeded beyond their
wildest dreams.






--
The danger to the life and well-being of children
increases in direct proportion to their proximity
to religion and its believers.
-Ivan Gowch