"JG" wrote in message
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"CBI" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message
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If a child sleeps *much*
better on his/her stomach (falls asleep faster, stays asleep
longer), it
makes much better sense, IMO, to let him/her do so.

At least (s)he will be a well rested corpse.

Why are you so averse to letting parents make a rational decision based
on *their* situation? A sleep-deprived child can adversely affect an
entire family; his/her problem usually has a domino effect.

Never said I was. Why do you assume that parents aren't? Maybe some value
the decreased risk over a little extra sleep. Truth be told there are very
few kids who, if put down supine right from birth, will not sleep just fine.
There is nothing int he back to sleep program that suggests parents should
force the issue. All they are told to due is to put them down face up. There
is no direction to keep checking them and flipping the kid over. We've
discussed this before yet to keep raising the same old crap over and over
again.



You tell us. What is the cost of correcting these deformities caused
by BTS?

Sorry, I don't have a plastic surgeon on call. I'm sure you could get a
ballpark figure by doing a Gooogle search, however.

For one surgery? - Sure.

The relevant figure would be to determine how many surgeries are being
caused by the campaign. I'm betting it is low. SInce you are the one
claiming it is not worth it then I am sure you won't mind digging out those
figures.



I'd say "up to 48%" of kids having misshapen heads, even if the
deformities aren't permanent, speaks for itself.

What does it say? To me it says that a lot parents have been appropriately
counselled to try to turn the kid but not to get worked up about some mild
asymmetry.

As I pointed out in my other post - the real joke here is that for ages you
have been screaming about how the advice the AAP gives should be obvious to
any idiot. Now you are claiming that 48% of parents are idiots. You can't
have it both ways. If so many parents are so stupid then the AAP is
justified in giving such obvious advice.


The simple measures
suggested in the article (prone while awake/observed, rotating 180
degrees in the crib) are, IMO, common sense--yet apparently almost half
of "Back to Sleep" parents haven't employed them (or asked their kid's
caregiver to employ them). OTOH, maybe they ARE aware of them, and
simply think Jr.'s misshapen head is endearing, right? Uh-huh. Yeah...

No - maybe they are employing them but they don't work 100%. I hear about
kids that prefer to sleep with their heads to one side all the time but you
and Roger are the only two parents I have ever heard claim their kids would
not sleep well supine. Perhaps that is because I counsel my patients from
early on and so the kids become accustomed to supine sleeping from early on
whereas you and Rog never really bought into the whole concept (and probably
took a perverse pleasure in not following the standard advice).

Remember, you still have not shown that there is a significant problem. The
48% figure indicates nothing since that does not tell us how many of these
kids will even have a noticeable asymmetry when older, much less undergo
surgery or teasing. Before you lambaste 48% of the parents for their poor
choices/parenting you need to show that they are doing something wrong.



Maybe they can and they just don't come tot he same
conclusions as you.

Yup. Gee, and to think there are some parents who just can't cope with
having kids, so they come to the conclusion that they'll simply off
them.

I'm not sure I see the connection. Surely you abnit that it is possible for
a well adjusted, sane intelligent parent to come to different conclusions
than you did?

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CBI, MD