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Old June 17th 04, 02:40 AM
R. Steve Walz
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Default "Parenting Without Punishing"

Doan wrote:

this pseudoscience. A teacher who has some good idea of how to
teach her children to read is forced by the school system to do it
some other way--or is even fooled by the school system into
thinking that her method is not necessarily a good one.

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Nonsense, if she's so ****ing smart she can teach her kids to
read long before they even go to school, as WE did! If it doesn't
work, or if her methods make her kids hate her guts, then obviously
she's WRONG!


Or a parent
of bad boys, after disciplining them in one way or another, feels
guilty for the rest of her life because she didn't do "the right
thing," according to the experts.

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If her results are dog****, then she's wrong.
If her kids weren't REALLY "bad", if instead SHE was the only one
who was misbehaving, then SHE should be punished!


So we really ought to look into theories that don't work, and
science that isn't science.

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That would be YOURS, the slack-jawed idjit contingent, which is
an ignorant pressure block of low-grade morons who resent people
with more brains than they have. These comprise the right-wingnut
pseudo-intellectual nutfringers who resent anything that doesn't
meet with their standards of ignorant viciousness and forcing things
that don't fit and don't work instead of using the correct tool for
the job as determined by REAL Science!


I think the educational and psychological studies I mentioned are
examples of what I would like to call cargo cult science.

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Since you're the only backward cult member here, you're the one
building airplanes out of coconuts, jerkoff!
Steve



In the
South Seas there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw
airplanes land with lots of good materials, and they want the same
thing to happen now. So they've arranged to imitate things like
runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a
wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head
like headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas--he's
the controller--and they wait for the airplanes to land. They're
doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the
way it looked before. But it doesn't work. No airplanes land. So
I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the
apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but
they're missing something essential, because the planes don't land.

(from Cargo Cult Science by Richard Feyman.
Adapted from the CalTech commencement address given in 1974)

On 16 Jun 2004, jitney wrote:

The very title of this thread indicates a the kind of egghead
academianistic theorizing that is so full of **** that such people
need colostomy bags hooked up to their ears. If you raise a child
without punishing bad behavior, you are inflicting a criminal on
society and should yourself be held accountable. People that advocate
mindless theories like this would be far more useful to society if
they removed the grafitti that their hellion brats put up on the walls
in the first place.-Jitney