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Old April 9th 07, 11:35 PM posted to talk.abortion,alt.child-support
Chris
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Default Who has the ultimate right to choose?


"elizabeth" wrote in message
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On Apr 4, 10:34 am, "Chris" wrote:
"CafeWriter" wrote in message

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I've had enough. For all the men who got women pregnant and decided

to
become deadbeat fathers,


Men don't decide to become fathers; women make that decision; unless, of
course, your definition of fatherhood begins at conception.


Men are free to get vasectomies before sex, they are free to use
condoms. Women can't get vasectomies nor decide to use condoms,
that's the man's choice. So you don't have as many choices as women,
too bad. If women had a method as cheap, safe, and effective as
vasectomy, that could be as easily reversed, if they could store ova
just by having an orgasm the way men can store sperm . .. well, there
wouldn't be many abortions at all.

But because most men feel entitled to sexual access, and feel that
it's not their problem if the woman gets pregnant, abortion will be
needed, far more often than it should.


Whether the above is all true, all false, or somewhere in between, STILL the
fact remains that WOMEN, not men make such choice. (see below)


you are not worth it.


Shame on you. That's why if a father does not pay child support or

help
the
mother out, then he is not truly a father that his child would know

but
rather a man who doesn't love his child.


Not paying cash to a child's mother says NOTHING about not loving said
child.


Bull****. Letting your child live in poverty means you are the sort
of heartless asshole who should be castrated, because we don't need
more irresponsible assholes breeding children that the rest of society
must support.


Tell that to all the women who are doing so.


In fact, that's very sociopathic, not caring about your own
offspring. Maybe you realize your mother made the wrong choice on
abortion,


Thank you for confirming my claim that it is indeed the WOMAN, not the man,
who makes such choice.

and thus, don't want your offspring to have a chance?

Now geez that's probably part of the reason why some women chose

abortions;
they already knew that the men that got them pregnant wouldn't help

them
out.


Did you purposely decide to not answer my above question, or did you

simply
overlook it?


So what's your beef, mad about paying child support?


Do you always answer a question with a question?

Well, why not get custody and make her pay you?