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Old December 5th 06, 11:11 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Greegor wrote:
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Greegor wrote:
G Do you think La Cosa Nostra makes too much money?
K Yep.
G Isn't it time to admit they just don't make a good enough living?
K Not my area of expertise. Yours?
G (sarcasm)
K That's a lie. You meant very seriously to compare CPS to the mob,
Greg.

How could sarcasm be a lie?

When it's a serious accusation rather then humorous sarcasm.

K Which makes it appear that all the facts in the
K world do not matter to you. You simply will not
K accept the truth, and hence, you lie.

Isn't that a dogmatists argument to atheists, Kane?

They can use any argument they wish. The issue is, what are the facts?

K "Can you provide some support for such and
K argument, or isn't it time to admit that in fact
K CPS is underfunded and has been for decades now?"
K Your dodge is an obvious admission that
K either you cannot, or you know better.

Know better than to hand MORE money to a corrupt "enterprise"?

A very weak argument, Greg.


Please keep thinking that!


It's not a matter of thinking it, I know it.

You are supposed to show us,


supposed to?


Sure. You expect it of others. Or do you have a double standard.

with the same kind or better data than I
supply for my argument, that I am wrong,
and that in fact CPS has
adequate funding to perform effectively.

Got any?


You call what you supply "data"? snicker


Sure do. You are lying now, Greg.

Both the number of posts and the length of the posts as to content
include many citations of data.

For instance I just posted that the ACF itself recognizes that the claim
made here that huge numbers of child non-victims are removed from
families are in fact only 4% and that those are short term for
investigation.

ACF included the charts and numbers from data collected and aggregated
from the states. I provided links directly to them.

I'd call that data, would you not? And I'd call it providing them, would
you not?

Is that what Goebbels called his stuff?

Darned if I know. Getting desperate, are you?

What do they need more money for,
TO BUY WHITEOUT when the
inspectors are coming??


Now how many such cases can you come up with like that, Greg?

You blow everything but your own misdeeds way out of proportion.

That's not argument. That's called 'ranting.'

Is Dan a felon, by the way?

Are you willing to challenge laws you find distasteful to you by taking
evidence you've broken one and use it in your case for "money," like you
suggested to someone they do who had their children's return at risk?

Let us know when you do that.

And I'm thinking about surveying the Congressional record to see if you
have indeed left vicious accusatory claims against the state of Iowa and
its agents in your testimony uncorrected.

Would you like me to review our conversation on this matter to help
clear up your memory of it?

Or do you believe still that Iowa misappropriated funds and did not
create and staff the CRB offices around the state they were required to
with the level of federal funding provided?

No, the states need money for just such services, Greg. CRBs are there
to protect families and children. Or hadn't you noticed?

Kane