On Mar 12, 11:06�am, cjra wrote:
On Mar 12, 9:55 am, wrote:

As a mom to two kids (3.5 & 5yo) I empathize. My kids have never slept
through the night and I've given up. They go to bed at 8pm
consistently and fall asleep on their own. They come to our bed any
time after 2am (time varies) and sleep there until it's morning. I've
learnt to cherish the cuddles because I know pretty soon they will
pretend not to recognize me in public

I told myself that for 20 months, but it's no longer flying.

As long as you are getting adequate sleep and you're okay with it, let
her come to your bed when she wakes up in the middle of the night.
Instead of you going to her, teach her to come to you.

That's the problem. We're not getting adequate sleep and we're not ok
with it, which is why I asked for some help. �I can live on little,
but almost 2 years of �4-6 hours per night is getting to be a problem.
My husband can't manage on less than 6. We can't function during the
day. I also don't think DD is getting enough sleep, because she's so
cranky at night and clearly tired but won't sleep.

She doesn't need to 'come to us' as 90% of the time she's already in
our bed. Otherwise she's in a crib. She does know how to crawl off a
bed when she's awake, but asleep she moves around so much I don't
trust her in a bed by herself, so she's either with us or in the crib.

Hugs to you both! I got lucky there with some sleepers. That's not to
say they didn't have occasional issues, but for the most part,
sleepers. lol. (not trying to rub it in). I'd try the white noise
machine or a fan - I find it helps block out noise, as well as
silence. My last baby was an awesome sleeper because the crib was next
to me and he could probably just be soothed by our breathing/sleeping
noises, but he has been in his own room since age 1 (the same room
though because we converted our family room into a fourth bedroom so
there was no change involved for him) with occasional difficulties.
The other 2 were in their own rooms from pretty much the getgo, the
only exception being the first couple of months with our first (he
would crack open an eye at a week old to see if we were still there!).
lol. I can tell with his cry what has probably occurred - hurting,
sleeping limb with numbness or tingling, scared, etc. He is 2 years
and 5 months old, and he is able to say "it hurts" or hold his
sleeping arm out to me. He definitely doesn't seem to like stone
silence though, hence the tabletop fan in his room pointed into the
closet. All of the kids wound up, and the last one winds up, in our
bed from time to time though. Good luck. Hopefully it will pass soon.
You could try a dose of Tylenol or Motrin just to see if it was due to
teething pain from molars too. You can't always see those ones working
in during the early stages. I have known people who say they haven't
slept a good night since giving birth XX years ago too though. That
gives me shivers!