On Mar 12, 12:23 pm, Chris wrote:
On Mar 12, 11:06�am, cjra wrote:



On Mar 12, 9:55 am, wrote:

As a mom to two kids (3.5 & 5yo) I empathize. My kids have never slept
through the night and I've given up. They go to bed at 8pm
consistently and fall asleep on their own. They come to our bed any
time after 2am (time varies) and sleep there until it's morning. I've
learnt to cherish the cuddles because I know pretty soon they will
pretend not to recognize me in public

I told myself that for 20 months, but it's no longer flying.

As long as you are getting adequate sleep and you're okay with it, let
her come to your bed when she wakes up in the middle of the night.
Instead of you going to her, teach her to come to you.

That's the problem. We're not getting adequate sleep and we're not ok
with it, which is why I asked for some help. �I can live on little,
but almost 2 years of �4-6 hours per night is getting to be a problem.
My husband can't manage on less than 6. We can't function during the
day. I also don't think DD is getting enough sleep, because she's so
cranky at night and clearly tired but won't sleep.

She doesn't need to 'come to us' as 90% of the time she's already in
our bed. Otherwise she's in a crib. She does know how to crawl off a
bed when she's awake, but asleep she moves around so much I don't
trust her in a bed by herself, so she's either with us or in the crib.

Hugs to you both! I got lucky there with some sleepers. That's not to
say they didn't have occasional issues, but for the most part,
sleepers. lol. (not trying to rub it in).

pbbbtttthhh!

I'd try the white noise
machine or a fan - I find it helps block out noise, as well as
silence.

Ah yes. I have often considered this and *I* like white noise, but
have a husband who hates it. We had to search for a fan that had NO
noise....I've tried convincing him to sleep in the other room (it's
kind of open, no doors, as it's not really a bedroom, it's just where
we have the spare bed til we finish her room, which is why I can't put
her there), but he claims he can't sleep in that bed. grrrr

My last baby was an awesome sleeper because the crib was next
to me and he could probably just be soothed by our breathing/sleeping
noises, but he has been in his own room since age 1 (the same room
though because we converted our family room into a fourth bedroom so
there was no change involved for him) with occasional difficulties.

DD has slept with us since she came home from NICU (I sometimes wonder
if she's trying to make up for those 3 weeks of not being near
us!)...I had visions of moving her out at about a year but we didn't
get to her room yet. We're finally starting now. She's never been a
good sleeper, and I think now, being near us wakes her up more, that's
why my moving out of the room helped for awhile. It's been lousy ever
since she got croup, got better for awhile, but is now really lousy
again.

The other 2 were in their own rooms from pretty much the getgo, the
only exception being the first couple of months with our first (he
would crack open an eye at a week old to see if we were still there!).
lol. I can tell with his cry what has probably occurred - hurting,
sleeping limb with numbness or tingling, scared, etc. He is 2 years
and 5 months old, and he is able to say "it hurts" or hold his
sleeping arm out to me. He definitely doesn't seem to like stone
silence though, hence the tabletop fan in his room pointed into the
closet. All of the kids wound up, and the last one winds up, in our
bed from time to time though. Good luck. Hopefully it will pass soon.
You could try a dose of Tylenol or Motrin just to see if it was due to
teething pain from molars too. You can't always see those ones working
in during the early stages.

I did think she was teething some of those nights, but tylenol or
motrin don't do much for her. They seem to have no effect. I wonder if
it's because she had such heavy drugs the first week of life (she was
under heavy sedation) that she's too sensitized....I don't know how
valid that is, but I have noticed that the effect of the meds is minor
if at all - if she's really teething it'll calm her down some, but
doesn't help her sleep.

I have known people who say they haven't
slept a good night since giving birth XX years ago too though. That
gives me shivers!


I had such high hopes as it was improving for awhile, but now seems to
be going downhill again. She wasn't eating a lot at nights for awhile,
and I thought that was it, but even when she does eat well, she's
still not sleeping.