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#11
March 11th 06, 05:11 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"Jan Drew" wrote in message news  "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. I would suggest that you look at the *medical definition* of asperger's syndrome, instead of someone who has no idea of what it is, who says it is "a dash of autism"....I am not "nit picking" when I say that she is wrong in saying that it is not autism...when the medical definition clearly states it *is* http://web.syr.edu/~rjkopp/data/dsm_criteria.html As I said before, it is a shame when someone is trying to discuss something, and uses words that they do not understand....so I am now sharing links to try to help you (and others here) understand aspergers a little bit better. Since I have to live with the effects of this--my son has it--you should know that I *do* understand it... Not to mention that I have studied this over the past dozen+ years, as well as worked with other children directly that have this sydrome, as well as are elsewhere on the autism spectrum. I also work with other children who have developmental disabilities, as a special ed major....I have also worked as a classroom aide in special ed, as a substitute teacher, as a volunteer, etc...all over the past dozen+ years in the schools....all while researching developmental disabilities, and working with various support groups in the area. What did you say your credentials were? -- Buny " Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." ~ Albert Camus 
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#12
March 11th 06, 06:17 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
Jan Drew wrote:
"Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message y.com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. So, are you now claiming that all individuals with autism don't have "normal intelligence"? Meaning what--that all individuals with autism are individuals with low IQs? Nancy Unique, like everyone else
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#13
March 11th 06, 10:41 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"Sumbuny" wrote in message news:CoDQf.60435$Ug4.48903@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message om... "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:IXkQf.60386$Ug4.39803@dukeread12... "Skeptic" wrote in message news:mr6Qf.15073$oL.13998@attbi_s71... "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... Kind of like "heart attack like symptoms of an MI". Pretty much...using "big words" to try to inpress the audience, without comprending what those "big words" actually mean G A real pity you feel the need to giggle at teachers. Considering that I work with teachers, as a volunteer, a substitute teachers, as a special ed major (halfway to my degree at this point), with over a dozen years of experience volunteering and substitute teaching, not to mention working as an aide in the classroom...I would think that I know tad more about the profession than you do... A dozen, huh? I owned and directed two daycare centers for thirty eight years, which included kindergarten classes. You are just getting started. I repeat: A real pity you feel the need to giggle at teachers What did you say your credentials were? -- Buny " Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." ~ Albert Camus
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#14
March 11th 06, 10:51 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message ... "Jan Drew" wrote: "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. People with Aspberger's Syndrome have a type of autism, not "autism-like symptoms". Anyone who would use the latter expression is either ignorant of the facts or doesn't care. Ignorance can be forgiven, but only once. It is not nit-picking to ask people to use correct terms. -- Peter Bowditch Like: there is no such thing as "mercury amalgam Which shows how Peter LIES! http://tinyurl.com/lp4q4 http://tinyurl.com/plfvk http://tinyurl.com/rhg2z http://tinyurl.com/zgalf http://tinyurl.com/lhkz4 http://tinyurl.com/gpq2b http://tinyurl.com/ensc3 http://tinyurl.com/gs29p http://tinyurl.com/m7ay8 http://tinyurl.com/alfxm http://tinyurl.com/auzuc http://tinyurl.com/7nqft http://tinyurl.com/dxdnj
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#15
March 11th 06, 10:55 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"Sumbuny" wrote in message news:kwDQf.60437$Ug4.37573@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message news "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. I would suggest that you look at the *medical definition* of asperger's syndrome, instead of someone who has no idea of what it is, who says it is "a dash of autism"....I am not "nit picking" when I say that she is wrong in saying that it is not autism...when the medical definition clearly states it *is* No, I don't need to, you are nit picking, plain and simple.
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#16
March 11th 06, 10:57 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"MothWrangler" wrote in message ... Jan Drew wrote: "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message gy.com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. So, are you now claiming that all individuals with autism don't have "normal intelligence"? Meaning what--that all individuals with autism are individuals with low IQs? Nancy Unique, like everyone else Did you read me claiming that?
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#17
March 11th 06, 11:18 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"Jan Drew" wrote:
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message .. . "Jan Drew" wrote: "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. People with Aspberger's Syndrome have a type of autism, not "autism-like symptoms". Anyone who would use the latter expression is either ignorant of the facts or doesn't care. Ignorance can be forgiven, but only once. It is not nit-picking to ask people to use correct terms. -- Peter Bowditch Like: there is no such thing as "mercury amalgam This thread is not about amalgam, but, as I said above, "It is not nit-picking to ask people to use correct terms". Which shows how Peter LIES! Pardon? My lying is demonstrated by my request for accurate terminology? Have you been hitting the hooch again? snip whatever -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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#18
March 12th 06, 01:22 AM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
Jan Drew wrote:
"MothWrangler" wrote in message ... Jan Drew wrote: "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message igy.com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. So, are you now claiming that all individuals with autism don't have "normal intelligence"? Meaning what--that all individuals with autism are individuals with low IQs? Did you read me claiming that? In support of your position that Asperger Syndrome is not a type of autism, you've posted a statement from an article that differentiates individuals with Asperger from individuals with autism on the basis of intelligence--claiming that people with Asperger have "normal" intelligence (which must mean that the author believes individuals with autism do not have "normal" intelligence). So, do you or do you not agree with what the article says about Asperger and autism? If you don't agree with what the article says, why did you post information from it? Nancy Unique, like everyone else
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#19
March 12th 06, 04:51 AM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"MothWrangler" wrote in message ... Jan Drew wrote: "MothWrangler" wrote in message ... Jan Drew wrote: "Sumbuny" wrote in message news:sk2Qf.59701$Ug4.977@dukeread12... "Jan Drew" wrote in message digy.com... http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.] "Autism-like symptoms of Asperger's"???? Asperger's Syndrome *is* a type of autism....the teacher not only is not doing her job very well, she is not very well informed... -- Buny Wrong. You are nit picking. She stated it correctly. http://www.encorestudio.org/content/reallifereview.html Real Life focuses on Asperger's Syndrome, which a program note describes as being like a dash of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome have normal intelligence but exhibit autism-like symptoms. So, are you now claiming that all individuals with autism don't have "normal intelligence"? Meaning what--that all individuals with autism are individuals with low IQs? Did you read me claiming that? In FACT no one did. Now after ALL these diversions, the subject is restored: http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news04.txt Teaching in the ADHD era: Variety of learning disorders make instruction more complex Excerpts: [see my comments] Fights are rare, but a few teachers have been cursed at to their face. [this should NEVER be allowed, under ANY circumstances] Most weeks, a larger number contend with students who refuse to do their assignments. A handful of students must be coaxed into participation from the withdrawn, autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome, while others seem sunk in silence - perhaps, teachers say, because they've witnessed or suffered anger or abuse at home. [My-my isn't the teacher judgmental, Mark Probert?, YES, it is the teacher's job.]
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#20
March 12th 06, 01:25 PM
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Teaching in the ADHD Era
"Jan Drew" wrote:
snip stuff we have heard before autism-like symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome Jan, could you please explain why you will not accept that this is a ridiculous statement? Aspberger's Syndrome IS autism, not an "autism-like" anything. Would it damage your anti-Ritalin campaign in any way to admit this? -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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