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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
vernon wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. You tell us. No, Vern, YOU opened it..now go prove it... |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
vernon wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" In fact, in the exposure of the indigenous people to MeHg, studies found no adverse effects in children and inconclusive in adults. Imagine that. |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... john wrote: "Jason Johnson" wrote in message ... However, at this time, there is absolutely no credible evidence that mercury/thimerosal causes autism. None. Epidemiological studies on various populations, using different doses, etc. show NO relationship. ********, you have no discernment at best Thanks, John. Jason did not say that. I did. Jason does not have a newsreader that can quote properly, or so he says. DTABOR...click on Jason's message. In article , Mark Probert wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peter, I done a google search for "causes of autism" and found out that scientists are not 100 per cent sure related to the cause of autism. I have noticed that various posters on both sides of this issue have indicated in their posts the following: I am paraphrasing: thimerosal causes autism. thimerosal does not cause autism. mercury causes autism. mercury doew not cause autism. The truth is that scientists are NOT 100 percent sure related to the cause of autism. However, at this time, there is absolutely no credible evidence that mercury/thimerosal causes autism. None. Epidemiological studies on various populations, using different doses, etc. show NO relationship. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, There are other studies mentioned in this report that do show a relationship. I typed "causes of autism" into the google search engine and could not find any medical research reports related to the cause of autism. I found the following information at the EIR (Environmental Illness Resources) website. I deleted the portions of the article related to causes other than heavy metals such as chemical exposure. Source: EIR website Heavy Metal Toxicity Another finding in autistic children is a higher level of heavy metals than normal. One source of mercury exposure in early life is through vaccinations. Thimerosal is a preservative used in many vaccinations to prevent contamination. Thimerosal is 49.6% mercury by weight. Shockingly in 1999 the American Food and Drug Administration released a report stating that children who received thimerosal containing vaccinations at multiple visits may be exposed to more mercury than is recommended by federal guidelines. In fact, children may have been receiving 100 times the 0.1 micrograms per kilogram of daily exposure considered safe by most authorities worldwide. This report has, however, resulted in positive action being taken. Following the publication of the report, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommended that thimerosal be removed from all vaccines given to children. A study of 2 US government databases in March 2006 shows that in the 4 years following the recommended removal of thimerosal from childrens vaccines, exposure of children to this toxin was reduced to almost zero, and most importantly, new cases of autism actually began to decrease. Mercury is a known neurotoxin and could be especially harmful to the developing brains of young children. Mercury also disrupts biochemistry and can result in dysfunction of multiple enzyme systems and damage to cell membranes and many proteins involved in all bodily functions. As can be said for the MMR vaccine, increases in vaccinations correlate well with increases in incidence of ASD's. In a paper published in the journal Neurotoxicology by The Coalition for Safe Minds in 2001, the authors seek to determine the levels of mercury that could be expected upon hair analysis, based upon the amounts of mercury in vaccines routinely given to infants and children.(12). The paper predicts, based upon a proven model, that giving children all the usual vaccinations, using thimerosal containing vaccines would result in a hair concentration of greater than 1ppm (parts per million) of mercury for up to 365 days with various peaks during that period. 1ppm is the safe limit set by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Research at the UCLA Medical Center in California has also shown that Thimerosal (when bound to human albumin protein) triggers an immune system reaction in autistic children, resulting in the production of antibodies (17). This indicates a possible autoimmune reaction as the immune system could react against any of the child's own tissues that happen to have Thimerosal bound to them. Obviously children are exposed to mercury from other sources as well so their actual mercury levels could be expected to be even higher than this. The paper notes that: "exposure to low levels of mercury during critical stages of development has been associated with neurological disorders in children, including ADD, learning difficulties, and speech delays, the predicted hair Hg (mercury) concentration resulting from childhood immunizations is cause for concern." A paper published in March 2006 in Environmental Health Perspectives would seem to shed more light on the mechanisms by which thimerosal can damage a childs health. Researchers at University of California, Davis, have found that in mice at least, thimerosal can disrupt the immune system. This large, well funded study for the university's MIND Institute and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences is sure to be an important indicator of where future research should be focused. The researchers in this study looked at dendritic cells which can be described as messengers within the immune system. These cells take up invaders such as bacteria, viruses and other antigens such as vaccine ingredients and process them. They then migrate to the lymph nodes to present their information to other immune cells, which can activate a systemic immune response. The research shows that these dendritic cells, especially the normal biochemical signals they process, are highly sensitive to thimerosal. With low concentrations of thimerosal, an inflammatory response occurs and with higher concentrations the cell is actually killed. These reactions could lead to any number of unwanted, and uncontrolled, effects within the immune system. Autistic children often show signs of immunological dysfunction with allergies, gut disorders and frequent infections being common. The effects of thimerosal on the immune system, that this study demonstrates, provides one possible explanation of why this is the case. Of course, mercury is not the only heavy metal that can cause health problems and vaccinations are not the only source of exposure to mercury. Other possible sources of heavy metal exposure are contaminated food and water supplies. Fish is particularly associated with contamination as oceanic pollution becomes more concentrated as it moves up the food chain to predatory fish.. Chemical Exposure A number of researchers and institutions are now studying the possible role of exposure to chemicals in ASD's. A major study is underway at The UC Davis M.I.N.D. Institute, Schools of Medicine and Veterinary Medicine, and the College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences funded by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. Professor Isaac Pessah who is involved with this study states: " Environmental exp |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... vernon wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" In fact, in the exposure of the indigenous people to MeHg, studies found no adverse effects in children and inconclusive in adults. Imagine that. Mark lies. http://epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=212851 http://newton.nap.edu/execsumm_pdf/9899.pdf http://www1.umn.edu/eoh/hazards/haza...Toxicity-43793 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract For starters. |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
"Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... "Mark Probert" wrote in message ... vernon wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" In fact, in the exposure of the indigenous people to MeHg, studies found no adverse effects in children and inconclusive in adults. Imagine that. Mark lies. Many have a problem with logic. 1. There is a present day widespread mercury tainting some say is the cause of autism. 2. It is much more than years ago. 3. Quebec has seen no difference. 4. Quebec has the same ratio today as other areas and countries. 5. What was in Quebec years ago? |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
Mark Probert wrote:
vernon wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" In fact, in the exposure of the indigenous people to MeHg, studies found no adverse effects in children and inconclusive in adults. Imagine that. Just for clarification....my comments pertain specifically to Vernon's mentioned incident of massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
vernon wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... "Mark Probert" wrote in message ... vernon wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" In fact, in the exposure of the indigenous people to MeHg, studies found no adverse effects in children and inconclusive in adults. Imagine that. Mark lies. Many have a problem with logic. Vernon, my comments pertained specifically to the incident you mentioned. If you disagree, find proof that I am wrong. Note that I did research this issue and found studies that support my position. |
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Important Letter on Autism in Chicago Tribune
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... vernon wrote: "Jan Drew" wrote in message . com... "Mark Probert" wrote in message ... vernon wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "vernon" there@there wrote in message ... (...) In Quebec, they wouldn't know the difference. They had massive mercury poisoning (you find out why) before vaccinations. DDUUUUHHHH And, with this "massive mercury poisoning," was there a higher rate of autism than other parts of Canada or North America? Jeff You opened it. Wrong, again, as usual. You claimed that there was massive mercury poisoning in Quebec. You follow it up. Jeff You tell us. "same before and after" In fact, in the exposure of the indigenous people to MeHg, studies found no adverse effects in children and inconclusive in adults. Imagine that. Mark lies. Many have a problem with logic. Vernon, my comments pertained specifically to the incident you mentioned. If you disagree, find proof that I am wrong. Note that I did research this issue and found studies that support my position. No. Your words are above. You lied. http://epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=212851 http://newton.nap.edu/execsumm_pdf/9899.pdf http://www1.umn.edu/eoh/hazards/haza...chealtheffects... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...eve&db=PubMed&... For starters. Now..YOU are once again weaseling. Which is EXACT what you accuse others' of. |
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