American kids getting high on prescription drugs

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This describes a serious problem with people getting drugs illegally.

Well, NO it does not.

Sorry, I do not think that "pharming parties" are legal. And anyone who
takes drugs are a pharming party is breaking the law.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Taking medications prescribed for someone else is illegal.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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This describes a serious problem with people getting drugs illegally.

Well, NO it does not.

Sorry, I do not think that "pharming parties" are legal. And anyone who
takes drugs are a pharming party is breaking the law.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Taking medications prescribed for someone else is illegal.

Yes, simple possession of medications prescribed for someone else is
illegal. We keep telling Jan that, but she just doesn't get it.
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This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.


How about THIS, Jan? Here's the actual law:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/s...4----000-.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/fb4pd

It begins, "It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly or intentionally
to possess a controlled substance unless such substance was obtained
directly, or pursuant to a valid prescription or order, from a practitioner,
while acting in the course of his professional practice, or except as
otherwise authorized by this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter."

Now if Junior takes mommy's pills out of the medicine cabinet, even in his
own home, he is "knowingly or intentionally" in possession of them, and is
thus in violation of THE LAW!

Any further assertion by you that there is no such law is most certainly A
LIE!
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Gee, a UPI story. Nutritionists are convinced that they can make money
selling "treatments" to families of ADHD kids.


Gee Jeff, would that be 1% of what you pharma boys make selling ritalin
etc

I get no money at all from selling Ritalin.

Jeff

Gee that's anecdotal. Show real evidence from peer reviewed journals. *;*

Jan

"Rich"

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There is NO law concerning teenagers taking drugs out of the medicine
cabinet in their own home.

Period.

Call your pharmacist and ask him.

No need. Pharmacists do not write the laws.


Call your police station and ask them.

No need.

Police do no write the laws.

You are wrong. Period.

I am not wrong. Period.

Rich also proved he does not comprehend just fine in another post.

In FACT, he did NOT pick up on the fact that another poster, posted under
this name:

JanD@gmail

God help all those he sees in the ER.

"Rich"

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"Mark Probert"
Jan Drew wrote:
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This describes a serious problem with people getting drugs
illegally.
Well, NO it does not.
Sorry, I do not think that "pharming parties" are legal. And anyone
who takes drugs are a pharming party is breaking the law.
This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers
getting drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This
is not breaking any law.
Actually it is. The use of prescription medication by anyone other
than the person to whom it was prescribed and dispensed is illegal.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Incorrect. It is about illegal use

Poor Mark.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Poor Jan.

you are too stubborn to you admit that you are WRONG.

That would be ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LIES.

I have indeed admitted WHEN I was wrong.



Wasn't it you who asserts that stating something
that's wrong as a fact is a LIE?

It was YOU who stated your lies were FACTS.

Shall I list them again?

Along with your words, the burden of proof is on the accuser?




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"Rich"

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OOPPPPSSS.

You left out what Jeff wrote, as well as what IIena wrote:

Now back to the subject which evidently Rich would like to hide.

Rich has never mentioned having any children.

Go figure.

What's more Rich is here to argue/harass and he falsely believes, he can
make any claim and provide no proof it is true.

American kids getting high on prescription drugs

BOSTON (Reuters) - When Paul Michaud's father died of cancer, the
16-year-old took OxyContin to ease his emotional pain.


He first snorted the prescription painkiller and within weeks he was
injecting it into his veins for a more powerful high before turning to
heroin as a cheaper option.


"It was the one drug that really pulled me. It took away everything,"
said Michaud, now 18, one of a new generation of American children
getting high on and addicted to prescription drugs.


Teenagers are increasingly experimenting with legal drugs like
OxyContin, widely known as "hillbilly heroin," and Vicodin, often
bought online or taken from medicine cabinets, even before trying
marijuana or alcohol, health officials say.


"Last year, painkillers were the No. 1 drug for people taking drugs
for the first time," said Nora Volkow, director of the National
Institute on Drug Abuse, an arm of the government's National
Institutes of Health.


"It's been escalating and escalating," she said. "In the past, the No.
1 drug for new initiates was marijuana."


Michaud, who attended a Boston area high school, was caught stealing
to pay for what he described as his almost instant addiction to
OxyContin -- which can cost $80 to $100 for a 40 mg pill. He was then
checked into a drug and alcohol clinic.


He has since been in and out of rehab programs six times.


"It destroyed my life pretty much. I haven't seen any of my teenage
years," he said from the Phoenix House, a clinic in the western
Massachusetts city of Springfield, where he says he has been clean for
50 days.


Michaud is not alone. Last year's Monitoring the Future study,
produced jointly by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the
University of Michigan, found a 38-percent rise in abuse of OxyContin
among 18-year-olds between 2002 and 2005.


While overall drug use dropped 19 percent over the past four years,
about one in 10 teenagers were abusing prescription drugs, the survey
showed.


"PHARMING PARTIES"


Among the most dangerous experiments are "pharming parties" where
children meet after scouring family medicine cabinets and dumping what
they find into a bowl. They stir things up, dip in, randomly pluck
drugs out and swallow them.


"They literally do not know what they are taking," said Michael Rich,
director of the Center on Media and Child Health at Children's
Hospital in Boston.


"They can overdose or take medications that counteract with each other
or interact with each other in dangerous ways. When you combine the
anti-anxiety drug Klonopin for example with alcohol, they work in the
same way and can very much lower the threshold at which you stop
breathing," he said.


Volkow at the National Institute on Drug Abuse said many teens
associate prescription drugs with family doctors, and consider them
safe, or have had positive experiences with properly prescribed
medication in their early childhood.


The challenge, she said, is to control abuse without banning drugs
that do more good than harm to society. OxyContin, which is sold
generically and generates about $2 billion in annual sales, is widely
used in hospitals.


The issue grabbed public attention in Boston after the suicide in
January of 17-year-old Cameron O'Connor, who shot himself in the head
a day after taking Klonopin. His death in Boston's middle-class
Arlington suburb triggered calls for better ways to detect teen abuse
of prescription drugs.


Teenagers are not the only prescription drug abusers. The number of
people over the age of 55 treated for abuse of opiates, for example,
has nearly doubled between 1995 and 2002, government statistics show.
In 2003, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh admitted becoming
hooked on OxyContin.


"We're also seeing an increase in the use of these drugs in young
adults," said Lloyd Johnston, lead investigator at Michigan's
Institute for Social Research, which researches the government's
700-page Monitoring the Future study.
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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This describes a serious problem with people getting drugs illegally.

Well, NO it does not.

Sorry, I do not think that "pharming parties" are legal. And anyone who
takes drugs are a pharming party is breaking the law.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Taking medications prescribed for someone else is illegal.

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Never been any question. Had you followed this thread, you would have seen
my words.

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Gee, a UPI story. Nutritionists are convinced that they can make money
selling "treatments" to families of ADHD kids.


Gee Jeff, would that be 1% of what you pharma boys make selling ritalin
etc

I get no money at all from selling Ritalin.


By that statement I guess we can figure that you do not charge for a
consultation that involves the presription of Ritalin ?

Cheers, rod
Jeff

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This describes a serious problem with people getting drugs
illegally.
Well, NO it does not.
Sorry, I do not think that "pharming parties" are legal. And anyone
who takes drugs are a pharming party is breaking the law.
This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers
getting drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This
is not breaking any law.
Actually it is. The use of prescription medication by anyone other
than the person to whom it was prescribed and dispensed is illegal.
This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.
Incorrect. It is about illegal use of medications. If you are prescribed
a medication it is for YOU, and no one else. The law says that if you
*give* (i.e. not sell) a prescription medication to a third party *YOU*
are guilty of drug trafficking.

Correct

Also, in many states "using" any drug from a container identified for
someone else is illegal.

Also, there are strong laws (not enforced) about providing a safe
environment for a minor under your care.

If the lack of a safe environment leads to injury, the law is most
assuredly enforced.


Says Mark Probert, failed and disbarred Lawyer, who is not able to give
opinion on matters of Law. Of course opinion is really "Paid Opinion" so
this "dickhead" gets away with his "opinions" on an hourly basis on an the
internet.

What a failure as a Husband and Father is Mark Probert.

Cheers, Rod



Jeff's statement:

This describes a serious problem with people getting drugs illegally.

No, it does not.


This IS showing the American people have fallen for the PROPAGANDA
put in front of them each day, and the doctors who write
prescriptions TOO FREELY!
[snip usual diversions + lies]

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