American kids getting high on prescription drugs

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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vernon wrote:
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vernon wrote:
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Incorrect. It is about illegal use of medications. If you are
prescribed a medication it is for YOU, and no one else. The law says
that if you *give* (i.e. not sell) a prescription medication to a
third party *YOU* are guilty of drug trafficking.
Correct

Also, in many states "using" any drug from a container identified for
someone else is illegal.

Also, there are strong laws (not enforced) about providing a safe
environment for a minor under your care.
If the lack of a safe environment leads to injury, the law is most
assuredly enforced.


Sure, like the enforcement of illegal aliens.

Many laws are not "enforced".

However, once detained, illegals are sent back.

The numbers are about 50% of those "detained"


This is the same problem as we were discussing. Laws do not always prevent
the evils that they address.

Agreed.

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
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"vernon"

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"Mark Probert"

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers
getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Incorrect. It is about illegal use

Poor Mark.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.




Illegal under any interpretation of any law regarding controlled
substances.

Quite wrong.

There is NO law conerning teenager taking drugs *out* of the medicine
cabinet in their own home.

PERIOD.


You really do have a problem in logic and discernment.

It is illegal for the parents to make it available. Children are defined as
children.

In the U.S taking or getting a prescription drug without specific
prescription is illegal. Almost never enforced, but illegal.

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"vernon"

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"Mark Probert"

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers
getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Incorrect. It is about illegal use

Poor Mark.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.




Illegal under any interpretation of any law regarding controlled
substances.

Quite wrong.

There is NO law conerning teenager taking drugs *out* of the medicine
cabinet in their own home.

PERIOD.

If you are taking controlled substances not prescribed to you it is
illegal. No matter if it is from medicine cabinet or elsewhere.


Jan doesn't worry about that. She has plenty prescribed to keep the
illuminate away.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
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FACT: Nutrients are better and non-addictive
http://www.whale.to/w/nutritional.html

Please provide real evidence to back your claim.

Jeff

YAWN

http://www.whale.to/w/ortho.html

I said real evidence, not bull doo-doo.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ics/ortho.html

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
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FACT: ADHD drugs ARE being abused.

Pain drugs are being abused. Should we stop treating pain?

Even Tylenol is abused, with deadly results.

Jeff

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Gee, a UPI story. Nutritionists are convinced that they can make money
selling "treatments" to families of ADHD kids.


Gee Jeff, would that be 1% of what you pharma boys make selling ritalin
etc

I get no money at all from selling Ritalin.


By that statement I guess we can figure that you do not charge for a
consultation that involves the presription of Ritalin ?

No, I don't.

Jeff

Cheers, rod
Jeff

"vernon"

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
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"vernon"

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"Mark Probert"

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers
getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.

Incorrect. It is about illegal use

Poor Mark.

This is not *people getting drugs illegally*, this is teenagers getting
drugs out of medicine cabinets right in thier own homes. This is not
breaking any law.




Illegal under any interpretation of any law regarding controlled
substances.

Quite wrong.

There is NO law conerning teenager taking drugs *out* of the medicine
cabinet in their own home.

PERIOD.


You really do have a problem in logic and discernment.

It is illegal for the parents to make it available.

You really do have a problem in logic and discernment.

Children are defined as children.

You really have a problem with defining, and posting bs.

a son or daughter of human parents

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"john" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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FACT: Nutrients are better and non-addictive
http://www.whale.to/w/nutritional.html

Please provide real evidence to back your claim.

Jeff

YAWN

http://www.whale.to/w/ortho.html

I said real evidence, not bull doo-doo.

http://www.quackwatchbull doo-doo

"Mark Probert" can not post without lying.

He has proven that several times just today.


C A III A wrote:
Try to follow along. There are two issues at hand.
Wrong, There is one issue.

American kids getting high on prescription drugs.

But I do not think anyone disagrees with that.
Yes, but Jan Drew wants the medications removed from society and prayer to
Jesus being the only permitted treatment.

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Ilena wrote in message
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American kids getting high on prescription drugs


So what do you propose should be done about all this, Ilena? Sure,
drug abuse is a problem. What does this have to do with mha? Why
post it here?
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--Rich


it shows the real nature of pharma med (1.5 million benzo addicts
UK) and the need to use nutrients which don't have these problems,
quite aprt from the drug pusing of the drug companies by inventing
diseases such ADHD http://www.adhdfraud.com/

No, it does not. It shows real human nature, which includes getting
addicted to drugs of abuse.

Jeff

Quite wrong.

It show the INCREASE of American kids getting high on prescription
drugs, because they are DRUGGED starting early as young as age two,
FILLING THE BRAIN FULL OF CHEMICALS BEFORE IT IS DEVELOPED.

This comes form the INSANITY of the *organized medicine* and drug
companies, for the sole purpose of GETTING RICH.

Next it shows that the parents are also replying on DRUGS and the
medicine cabinets are full, where the teenagers have full access.
Americans have done away with GOD and have been fooled by Satan and
must reach for a pill. We have been taught to believe the LIE to
reply on DRUGS and thrown GOD and his son JESUS CHRIST out.

Americans are reaping what they have sown.

The fools on the newsgroup are a fine example.

And, btw, What does Rich propose should be done about it?

Any than harass?

Jumping in for a moment... Jan, which topic are you really trying to
discuss... whether or not ADHD should be treated medically or the
abuse of prescription drugs? Two different topics.

I know it's over your head but usually, here, treated medically IS
prescription drugs.

Try to follow along. There are two issues at hand.

Wrong, There is one issue.

American kids getting high on prescription drugs.

If they're getting high from a prescribed dose of a prescribed dose of
medication, that is one issue. If they're getting high from stealing
prescription medications and using them recklessly, that is another issue.

**American** kids getting high on prescrription drugs IS the issue.

American kids getting high on prescription drugs

BOSTON (Reuters) - When Paul Michaud's father died of cancer, the
16-year-old took OxyContin to ease his emotional pain.


He first snorted the prescription painkiller and within weeks he was
injecting it into his veins for a more powerful high before turning to
heroin as a cheaper option.


"It was the one drug that really pulled me. It took away everything,"
said Michaud, now 18, one of a new generation of American children
getting high on and addicted to prescription drugs.


Teenagers are increasingly experimenting with legal drugs like
OxyContin, widely known as "hillbilly heroin," and Vicodin, often
bought online or taken from medicine cabinets, even before trying
marijuana or alcohol, health officials say.


"Last year, painkillers were the No. 1 drug for people taking drugs
for the first time," said Nora Volkow, director of the National
Institute on Drug Abuse, an arm of the government's National
Institutes of Health.


"It's been escalating and escalating," she said. "In the past, the No.
1 drug for new initiates was marijuana."


Michaud, who attended a Boston area high school, was caught stealing
to pay for what he described as his almost instant addiction to
OxyContin -- which can cost $80 to $100 for a 40 mg pill. He was then
checked into a drug and alcohol clinic.


He has since been in and out of rehab programs six times.


"It destroyed my life pretty much. I haven't seen any of my teenage
years," he said from the Phoenix House, a clinic in the western
Massachusetts city of Springfield, where he says he has been clean for
50 days.


Michaud is not alone. Last year's Monitoring the Future study,
produced jointly by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the
University of Michigan, found a 38-percent rise in abuse of OxyContin
among 18-year-olds between 2002 and 2005.


While overall drug use dropped 19 percent over the past four years,
about one in 10 teenagers were abusing prescription drugs, the survey
showed.


"PHARMING PARTIES"


Among the most dangerous experiments are "pharming parties" where
children meet after scouring family medicine cabinets and dumping what
they find into a bowl. They stir things up, dip in, randomly pluck
drugs out and swallow them.


"They literally do not know what they are taking," said Michael Rich,
director of the Center on Media and Child Health at Children's
Hospital in Boston.


"They can overdose or take medications that counteract with each other
or interact with each other in dangerous ways. When you combine the
anti-anxiety drug Klonopin for example with alcohol, they work in the
same way and can very much lower the threshold at which you stop
breathing," he said.


Volkow at the National Institute on Drug Abuse said many teens
associate prescription drugs with family doctors, and consider them
safe, or have had positive experiences with properly prescribed
medication in their early childhood.


The challenge, she said, is to control abuse without banning drugs
that do more good than harm to society. OxyContin, which is sold
generically and generates about $2 billion in annual sales, is widely
used in hospitals.


The issue grabbed public attention in Boston after the suicide in
January of 17-year-old Cameron O'Connor, who shot himself in the head
a day after taking Klonopin. His death in Boston's middle-class
Arlington suburb triggered calls for better ways to detect teen abuse
of prescription drugs.


Teenagers are not the only prescription drug abusers. The number of
people over the age of 55 treated for abuse of opiates, for example,
has nearly doubled between 1995 and 2002, government statistics show.
In 2003, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh admitted becoming
hooked on OxyContin.


"We're also seeing an increase in the use of these drugs in young
adults," said Lloyd Johnston, lead investigator at Michigan's
Institute for Social Research, which researches the government's
700-page Monitoring the Future study.