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Can Men get Organized?
I have been taken to court by the IDPA (Illinois Department of Public Aid Child Support Enforcement) numerous times because they can't correctly calculate my CS. I show up at court and their States Atty. already has their mistake figured out and I don't even have to see the Judge. And then a few weeks or months later IDPA does it again. One day they decided to skip the entire court process and just ordered arrearage to be withheld by garnishing my wages, it took them some 8 months to get that stopped. I have read similar stories of injustice happening to many others. Can men get organized and get together to fight these kind of things? Women have their women's rights, gays have their gay rights, why can't men have rights too? I'm just a father that loves my kids and pays their support just like the court ordered, it is deducted from my paycheck automatically. My kids have to work after school to support themselves while my ex buys herself a sport car. I was just thinking that if men could get together on these things we could make just as much noise as the gay rights folks can (I'm reasoning that there are more men than their are gays). RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in message news I have been taken to court by the IDPA (Illinois Department of Public Aid Child Support Enforcement) numerous times because they can't correctly calculate my CS. You can sue any government agency for incompetent services, can use small claims court up to the value of $5,000 Wasn't too long ago the Immigration Dept was sued for not getting green cards issued in time to legal immigrants. These people lost jobs and homes because because their temp status ran out ad could not prove their legal ability to work here. People have no idea of the nightmare of the Child Support system, until it's a public issue no action will ever take place to correct it. |
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... snip People have no idea of the nightmare of the Child Support system, until it's a public issue no action will ever take place to correct it. Exactly, we hear about deadbeat dads all the time. I'll bet the general public doesn't know that some of these are considered deadbeat dads for not paying support on children that are not theirs. Others are deadbeat dads because CSE can't calculate CS correctly. I don't know why they just don't do CS like they do other payroll deductions. That way if someone has an income their CS is automatically deducted. I was hospitalized for 2 months and out of work for over 3 months one time. I couldn't get out of the ICU to have CS orders temporarily suspended. Good thing I didn't die, they would have had to repossess my coffin to help pay the CS. We heard about the atrocities in Kuwait but we don't very often hear about the atrocities of our government and legal system on NCP's. We need to get the word out so next time a politician talks about cracking down on deadbeat dads, perhaps someone will ask why a man was jailed for not paying support for kids that he didn't even know. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in We heard about the atrocities in Kuwait but we don't very often hear about the atrocities of our government and legal system on NCP's. We need to get the word out so next time a politician talks about cracking down on deadbeat dads, perhaps someone will ask why a man was jailed for not paying support for kids that he didn't even know. RogerN It's too easy to beat up on Dead Broke Dads because they don't have a voice or the money to fund a campaign to bring attention to the abuses in the C$ system. Politicians have built their careers on the backs of NCP parents who fall behind their payments for many reasons. Layoffs, injury, lower paying jobs and how many soldiers came back from the war only to be arrested as soon as they touched American soil for failure to pay the high rates set when they were working in the civilian world. I hate the true Deadbeat too, the guy that walks away from his child or abandons children that know him, but these types are far and few between and tend to be more women that dump their kids for the new boyfriend. Everyone in the CS system should not be tarred with same brush, most arrearages are created by the system because they are out of touch with reality and are not flexible with the times. |
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"RogerN" wrote in message m... "DB" wrote in message ... snip People have no idea of the nightmare of the Child Support system, until it's a public issue no action will ever take place to correct it. Exactly, we hear about deadbeat dads all the time. I'll bet the general public doesn't know that some of these are considered deadbeat dads for not paying support on children that are not theirs. Others are deadbeat dads because CSE can't calculate CS correctly. I don't know why they just don't do CS like they do other payroll deductions. That way if someone has an income their CS is automatically deducted. I was hospitalized for 2 months and out of work for over 3 months one time. I couldn't get out of the ICU to have CS orders temporarily suspended. Good thing I didn't die, they would have had to repossess my coffin to help pay the CS. We heard about the atrocities in Kuwait but we don't very often hear about the atrocities of our government and legal system on NCP's. We need to get the word out so next time a politician talks about cracking down on deadbeat dads, perhaps someone will ask why a man was jailed for not paying support for kids that he didn't even know. Their response is something along the line of "well it's your responsibility to keep track of your own children". The only way I know of to accomplish this is to stalk the prostitute for at least nine months to determine whether or not she chose to give birth. And then, should she make such choice, force her to do a DNA test on her child. Both of which are crimes! Am I missing something here? RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in message news I have been taken to court by the IDPA (Illinois Department of Public Aid Child Support Enforcement) numerous times because they can't correctly calculate my CS. I show up at court and their States Atty. already has their mistake figured out and I don't even have to see the Judge. And then a few weeks or months later IDPA does it again. One day they decided to skip the entire court process and just ordered arrearage to be withheld by garnishing my wages, it took them some 8 months to get that stopped. I have read similar stories of injustice happening to many others. Can men get organized and get together to fight these kind of things? Women have their women's rights, gays have their gay rights, why can't men have rights too? I'm just a father that loves my kids and pays their support just like the court ordered, it is deducted from my paycheck automatically. My kids have to work after school to support themselves while my ex buys herself a sport car. I was just thinking that if men could get together on these things we could make just as much noise as the gay rights folks can (I'm reasoning that there are more men than their are gays). RogerN Problem is the gays are backed by bigger guns than are fathers. So, who's willing to go up against them first? |
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"DB" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in We heard about the atrocities in Kuwait but we don't very often hear about the atrocities of our government and legal system on NCP's. We need to get the word out so next time a politician talks about cracking down on deadbeat dads, perhaps someone will ask why a man was jailed for not paying support for kids that he didn't even know. RogerN It's too easy to beat up on Dead Broke Dads because they don't have a voice or the money to fund a campaign to bring attention to the abuses in the C$ system. Politicians have built their careers on the backs of NCP parents who fall behind their payments for many reasons. Layoffs, injury, lower paying jobs and how many soldiers came back from the war only to be arrested as soon as they touched American soil for failure to pay the high rates set when they were working in the civilian world. I hate the true Deadbeat too, the guy that walks away from his child or abandons children that know him, but these types are far and few between and tend to be more women that dump their kids for the new boyfriend. Everyone in the CS system should not be tarred with same brush, most arrearages are created by the system because they are out of touch with reality and are not flexible with the times. They are fully in touch with reality. They know EXACTLY what they're doing and the damage they are inflicting upon fathers and children. But guess what, power and money trumps any adverse consequences bestowed upon innocent others because of their addiction to same. |
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