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Old November 24th 03, 08:49 PM
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Utah state law says a woman has a right to breast-feed anywhere.

What about in church?
Would that be so the priests can watch and beat off too?


(Cathy Weeks) wrote in message . com...
From CNN.com:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/11/1....ap/index.html

Burger King apologizes to breast-feeding mom
Wednesday, November 12, 2003 Posted: 11:18 AM EST (1618 GMT)

OREM, Utah (AP) -- Burger King has served up a plain apology to a
woman who said she was ordered by a franchise employee to stop
breast-feeding her baby in the fast-food restaurant's dining room or
leave.

Kate Geary said she was made to "feel like a criminal" for
breast-feeding her baby girl Monday and asked the burger chain for an
apology.

Miami-based Burger King Corp. issued a generic apology in a prepared
release Tuesday.

"Burger King Corporation and our franchisee apologize for any
inconvenience any of our guests experienced at our restaurant on
November 10, 2003," the release said.

The company said its employee was simply responding to the request of
another customer who was uncomfortable with Geary breast-feeding at
the eatery. Geary was never asked to leave the restaurant, the
statement said.

"The general manager sent a female employee to speak with the woman
and asked that she either cover herself or move to the ladies room,"
the company said in a prepared release. Geary contends she was fully
covered.

The restaurant , about 40 miles south of Salt Lake City, does not have
a policy on breast-feeding.

Utah state law says a woman has a right to breast-feed anywhere.

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Old November 30th 03, 05:03 AM
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In article ,
Michelle J. Haines wrote:

I object less to the concept of children's concerts -- lighter music,
audience participation, and a more relaxed atmosphere -- than I do to
the implication that since children's concerts exist, then children
don't get to go to the adult concerts. The two orchestra members
who've piped up in this thread have both mentioned they have
children's concerts because children aren't welcomed or flat-out
aren't allowed at their other concerts.


Whereas I am objecting to Other People's children. My children would behave
beautifully, and so would yours, at a concert... but what about those Other
People's children, who will cry before they are hauled out?

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Old December 1st 03, 07:00 AM
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Michelle J. Haines wrote,

The two orchestra members
who've piped up in this thread have both mentioned they have
children's concerts because children aren't welcomed or flat-out
aren't allowed at their other concerts.

No, we have children's concerts because that is a great venue to introduce
children to the sound of an orchestra. There is a *huge* amount of music that
can be done at a well-planned educational concert. I can't remember the last
time I played Peter and the Wolf, but it was several years ago at least. And
anyway, every performance is the first time for someone. I could go the rest
of my life without playing Beethoven #5 or Dvorak's New World ever again and
die happy, but they are a joy to those who aren't so familiar with them.

We have (or had) classical subscription concerts to perform great music at a
high level to an audience who appreciates such music and is willing to pay $$
to hear it performed live. It is not unreasonable for audience members to
expect to hear a concert without being disturbed by young children, and I don't
think it is snooty to recognize that some events are suitable for the entire
family and some events are not. I honestly don't think *most* very young
children enjoy such concerts anyway--they are long, and even some older people
have trouble sitting still for two and a half hours.

It's great that your children behave well and that your husband recognizes the
signals and gets them out when necessary. In my experience, the people who
bring babies and toddlers to our subscription concerts are not nearly so
considerate, and it is unfair to both the audience and the performers.

My children and those of my colleagues are not being deprived at all. They are
exposed to music at home, they are taken to concerts and rehearsals as
appropriate. My eight-year-old was thrilled this summer because I took him
onstage prior to the concert and the percussionist showed him how to work the
wind machine (we were performing Don Quixote). Had I tried to take my
six-year-old and two-year-old to the same performance, it would have been a
disaster. They wouldn't have enjoyed it and my husband would have had to leave
with all the children, thus causing my eldest to miss out. I hope that in a
year or two my younger son will be ready to sit through an evening performance
of serious music, but in the meantime he is getting plenty of exposure through
recordings, violin and piano lessons, and hearing me play.

To imply that major orchestras are foundering *because* they do not welcome
young children to every performance is misinformed. The fact is that it costs
very much more money to put on a major orchestra subscription season than it
does to put on a community series. This has nothing to do with the presence of
young children in the audience--ticket sales typically only cover about 40% of
the annual budget anyway. My own orchestra's financial situation has very
little to do with our audiences, which have been large and enthusiastic, and
much more to do with incompetent management and board. And symphonies, like
other organizations dependent on endowment income and donor support, have been
hit hard by the lousy economy.

To try to get this even remotely on-topic, we did Petrouchka last summer and I
turned to wink at the violinist behind me right before we started the Dance of
the Wet-Nurses (she was also a nursing mother). It cracked her up. ;-)

Mary Ellen
William (8)
Matthew (6)
Margaret (2)


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Old December 3rd 03, 03:48 AM
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Michelle J. Haines wrote in message .. .

I object less to the concept of children's concerts -- lighter music,
audience participation, and a more relaxed atmosphere -- than I do to
the implication that since children's concerts exist, then children
don't get to go to the adult concerts. The two orchestra members


I count four -- you, me, Mary Ellen, and Jan...

who've piped up in this thread have both mentioned they have
children's concerts because children aren't welcomed or flat-out
aren't allowed at their other concerts.


We may be talking at cross-purposes. I said *noisy* children weren't
allowed, and that polite children are welcomed -- which which I doubt
you would disagree. Similarly, noisy cellphones aren't allowed, and
ushers hand out cough drops. Children who can be expected to audibly
disrupt a subscription concert should not be attending one, any more
than cellphones should be set to an audible ring. The point, after
all, is to hear the music.

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C, mama to one year old nursling
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Old December 4th 03, 04:19 PM
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wrote
We may be talking at cross-purposes. I said *noisy* children weren't
allowed, and that polite children are welcomed -- which which I doubt
you would disagree. Similarly, noisy cellphones aren't allowed, and
ushers hand out cough drops. Children who can be expected to audibly
disrupt a subscription concert should not be attending one, any more
than cellphones should be set to an audible ring. The point, after
all, is to hear the music.


My feeling on this topic is that it's a shame that live classical
music has become such a "fussy" situation. You have to get dressed up,
you have to pay loads of money, please don't clap or otherwise show
that you actually are enjoying the music, and please don't cough --
cough?! Gosh, they let you cough even when you're taking the SATs,
something that requires high concentration and that actually effects
people's lives. Surely people can continue to listen to and enjoy
music -- yes, even classical music -- in the presence of the
occasional cough. (Of course, if you're having a coughing fit, then
take care of it, just like I hope you would anywhere that people are
trying to hear anything or concentrate on anything.)

Same for kids. I don't think kids little or unruly enough to make a
scene during a show should be brought to any show -- classical music,
a movie, whatever. But if an otherwise well-behaved or quiet child is
brought to a concert and then unexpectedly needs to be removed (just
like if a generally well person goes to a concert and ends up having a
coughing fit), well, what's the big deal?
 




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