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Old June 19th 07, 09:46 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.support.divorce
Greegor
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Default Record 311,000 children torn from homes in 2005

Kane wrote
You seemed not the least concerned when Doug posted from such sources.


What better source of numbers to prove the corruption of
the agencies than to use the numbers THEY REPORT THEMSELVES?

This does not mean that Family Rights people actually BELIEVE
the numbers the agencies fabricate.

Why is that I wonder?
Now, can you answer the obvious question I asked?
The numbers were claimed to be up over a period of time.
Apparently to suggest an increase in CPS efforts to "collect children
for the child protection INDUSTRY," (isn't that how you say it?).
When in fact the country has a growing economically disadvantaged
population that has contributed to child abuse and neglect statistics,
I would guess.


Attach a number to your guess and call it official statistics Kane!
You can't do any worse than the Meth Connected numbers which
are based on guesses. (another thread)

The idea that the poor don't abuse and neglect their children more,
Greg, is a silly liberal bleeding heart piece of bull**** used to try
and further YOUR socialist agenda, and others that have proceeded you
here.


It must pain you when CPS caseworkers or CWLA spout that 'ism then!

We have a huge influx of very poor folks from the south. We have folks
coming out of Africa, a nation known in many parts for particularly
harsh child rearing practices, up to and including the excising of
little girl's clitorises and parts of the labia.


Look, there's Barney Fife, shining his ONE BULLET and telling
about that one time when some actual criminals came to town!
Keep harping on the 1% of substance and ignore the 80% with no
substance.
Good luck with that.

In fact, in the study that Ken was brought here to attack me for you,
the harshest child rearing practices were found in a part of Africa.
Our own indigenous population, prior to these recent immigrants
(meaning all of here prior), suffers in some classes, considerable
poverty.
That coupled with a rise of Christian fundamentalism where child
rearing with pain and humiliation are common in some sects, and YOU
AND FERN AND OTHERS HAVE WISHED TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF to do those
things, we have every reason to expect the number of children removed
to increase in total.
I note the rate was not noted though. Did you notice?


Are you going to accuse people of HATING BUREAUCRACY again, Kane?

In fact, Greg, we have read recently, that many states have FEWER
children by rate in our of home care than in earlier years.

You boys certainly are prone to cherry picking.

It's the season. You might find work in the orchards. Come West, I'll
be happy to put you up, while I continue to work on your poor
education.

Tell your mother she should be ashamed raising an ignorant kid like
you with the low morals you have. Whatever distracted her from raising
you properly?



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Old June 20th 07, 01:58 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.support.divorce
Julie Winters
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Default Record 311,000 children torn from homes in 2005

0:-] wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:46:45 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

Kane wrote


Mmmm...they don't do that. In fact they clearly show both that you
folks make poor estimates refuted by the actual numbers and rates.

For instance, Wexler tries in his opinion piece to claim the 35% of
children are abused in foster care...yet, foster parents are
responsible for, consistently from year to year, 0.5% of abuse.

The facts kind of shot you in the ass, me boy. And your various heroes
as well.


Mr. Wexler simply reported that in the Casey report, nearly one-third of
the [foster care] alumni reported that they had been abused by a foster
parent or another adult in a foster home.

Like the foster kid who said he never met another foster kid who WASN'T
abused in foster care.

Lets face it, the nice folk who stepped up to help children are long
gone. They've either adopted their wards, or quit fostering because of
the abuse CPS heaps on innocent children and families.

So who's left to 'foster' - clugs like MoRon who boast on ASCPS about
how he abused one boy for over a year - or money grubbing assholes like
you who wouldsell children to perverts on usenet like pork sausage on eBay.

Yup - CPS is so hard up to make mo money, they beg perverts ,
pedophiles, and child predators to become fosties.

Don't ask -- don't tell. Just bury the kids and count the money. lol.

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Old June 20th 07, 02:19 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.support.divorce
Julie Winters
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Default Record 311,000 children torn from homes in 2005

0:-] wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:46:45 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

Kane wrote
You seemed not the least concerned when Doug posted from such sources.

What better source of numbers to prove the corruption of
the agencies than to use the numbers THEY REPORT THEMSELVES?


Mmmm...they don't do that. In fact they clearly show both that you
folks make poor estimates refuted by the actual numbers and rates.

For instance, Wexler tries in his opinion piece to claim the 35% of
children are abused in foster care...yet, foster parents are
responsible for, consistently from year to year, 0.5% of abuse.

The facts kind of shot you in the ass, me boy. And your various heroes
as well.


This NJ report exposes lying, record altering, CPS agencies when it
comes to reporting, investigating, and substantiating abuse in foster hell.

Seems this report proves your estimates of abuse in foster hell are WAY
low - and I mean W-A-Y low. lol.

Seems these scum are incapable of telling the truth.

Kinda like you, huh, Don?

Here's one finding:

Professionally Unreasonable Decision-Making
One of the most dramatic findings from this study relates to the poor
quality of IAIU decision-making. Based on the facts documented in the IAIU
files, the IAIU findings decisions were found to be professionally
unreasonable 25% of the time. The research team found numerous examples of
cases that documented unjustified actions or omissions of the caregiver,
which resulted in substantial harm or risk of harm to children, yet the IAIU
investigation concluded with a finding of "not substantiated." * Such IAIU
case findings are inconsistent with the exercise of reasonable professional
judgment, and put children at serious risk of ongoing harm in out-of-home
care settings that are not closed to further DYFS placements.

For example, one case was unsubstantiated even though a foster mother
admitted striking a child with a belt resulting in a 4 inch linear belt mark
on the child's face. This foster mother had two prior substantiated
incidents of abuse or neglect. There were equally serious examples of
neglect to children that were classified as not substantiated, such as
medically documented serious neglect of hygiene and nutrition that resulted
in developmental delays, low weight, and pain and irritation to the child's
skin.

http://library.adoption.com/laws-and...le/5835/1.html

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